Hm, i will check out which should be the correct tagging of a road which are
forbidden i.e for lorries of a specific weight and for all other cars this road
is allowed. Regarding this specific street i have made a number of tests,
moving the destination point on my garmin further down the road. And during
these tests i found some points, where the garmin refuses to use the short way
and proposes a longer detour. Might be, that the device only check
access=destination without the other rules ?Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Gerd Petermann <[email protected]>
Datum: 26.09.2019 10:31 (GMT+01:00)
An: Development list for mkgmap <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] crude routing of my gpsmap 276Cx
Hi Manfred,Just to make that clear:I think that the long route is correct given
the tags of the mentioned ways if the vehicle is a car. So, your first goal
should be to correct the
tagging.Gerd________________________________________Von: mkgmap-dev
<[email protected]> im Auftrag von manfred.haiduk
<[email protected]>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. September 2019 10:20An:
Development list for mkgmap; [email protected]: Re: [mkgmap-dev] crude
routing of my gpsmap 276CxThank you for the information. I will try this later
this week and keep you informed. BTW, i can remember some years ago when i have
not used OSM Data on may Garmin but on a smartfone navigation system with OSM,
there was the same fault on that device with a long detour. But after some data
updates the routing failure on that device was goneVon meinem Samsung Gerät
gesendet.-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: Gerd Petermann
<[email protected]>Datum: 26.09.2019 09:52 (GMT+01:00)An:
Development list for mkgmap <[email protected]>,
[email protected]: Re: [mkgmap-dev] crude routing of my gpsmap 276CxHi
Manfred,I don't know the actual signs and I don't care if the tagging is right
or wrong. At least the combination of bicycle=yes and foot=no on
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25285589 looks very
wrong:bicycle=yesfixme=check access
rulesfoot=nohighway=tertiarymaxspeed=30maxweight=7.5name=Brandenberger
Straßeref=K 30Anyway, it seems that mkgmap sets the correct flags for the road,
the Garmin algo seems to simply ignore the "no-through-route" flag when the
detour istoo long. I've tried this with a sample file where the shortest route
goes through a road with access=destination + highway=residential and the
longer routejust has ways with highway=residential. As long as the detour is
rather small Mapsource takes the longer (allowed) route when using the car
profile.All other profiles seem to always use the shorter route. So, either
something is wrong in the map data (problem in mkgmap) or something is wrong in
the Garmin algo.Please try if you can reproduce the long route using a map
created with mkgmap r4292 and the default style coming with that
version.Gerd________________________________________Von: mkgmap-dev
<[email protected]> im Auftrag von manfred.haiduk
<[email protected]>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. September 2019 09:14An:
Development list for mkgmap; [email protected]: Re: [mkgmap-dev] crude
routing of my gpsmap 276CxFor your additional information, i think the tag
access=destination is to be seen with the additional tag for weight limit, as
the street is not allowed to be used for cars heavier than 7.5 tonsVon meinem
Samsung Gerät gesendet.-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: Gerd
Petermann <[email protected]>Datum: 26.09.2019 08:55
(GMT+01:00)An: Development list for mkgmap <[email protected]>,
[email protected]: Re: [mkgmap-dev] crude routing of my gpsmap 276CxHi
Manfred,I tried to reproduce your results with BC but I get a different
route.at the moment I wonder why Mapsource shows the shorter route when using
car/motorcycle. The wayshttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25285586 and
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25285589both have the tag access=destination,
so my understanding is that cars should not be routed through them, but this
seems to be ignored. I'll have to find out
why.Gerd________________________________________Von: DD8KQ
<[email protected]>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. September 2019 14:53An: Development list
for mkgmap; Gerd PetermannBetreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] crude routing of my gpsmap
276CxHi Gerdit's really weird. Trying this with MapSource you are right, there
is nolong detour. But, then, i tried the same with BaseCamp and you knowwhat,
BaseCamp produced on my Laptop this detour, see attached pictureTest2.And just
for testing, i tried the same area on a Smartfone running theNavigator App with
OSM maps, and this progromm is routing the samedetour, see picture
screenshot.So for me there must be something in the OSM Source regarding the
streetK30 which will cause the strange routing. But my experience is too
smallto figure it outAm 25.09.2019 um 11:12 schrieb Gerd Petermann:> Hi
Manfred,>> No idea. I cannot reproduce the result with the default style in
Mapsource. I tried with vehicle car as well as with cycling or pedestrian, I
never get the long detour.> Can you reproduce it with Mapsource? If yes, please
provide more details about the routing settings.>>
________________________________________> Von: mkgmap-dev
<[email protected]> im Auftrag von DD8KQ <[email protected]>>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. September 2019 21:58> An: Development list for mkgmap>
Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] crude routing of my gpsmap 276Cx>> Hi>> may be that
somebody has an idea why the routing of my gpsmap 276Cx is> so crude. I'm using
almost the standard style to build my own garmin> maps. And as the example is
mostly in the vicinity of my hometown,i had> not experienced this error before,
as i need not a gps in my home area.> If you look at picture
20190924_173131.jpg this is a routing i would> expect to the destination, short
and fast. If you look at> 20190924_173229.jpg, the destination is only a few
meters away from the> first one, the routing is nearly three times more than
before with the> same settings on my device. I would appreciate any advice what
to change> or any hint where i can look for why this could happen.>> Btw, if i
change the setting to use bicycle routing, the device will use> for both
destinations the expected way>> -->>
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