I sent the following email earlier; although it looks like I forgot to hit reply all and only sent it to jack.
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Alex Green <[email protected]> wrote: > Get a different email address for posting. > > The problem lies with Yahoo (and some other email providers). I know from > experience Gmail works fine. > > The other option is for everyone else to get a Gmail address and set up > filters to keep emails from the problem providers from ending up in the > spam folder. > > Yahoo has implemented some features that break most mailing lists and asks > other providers to do the same. Basically, they ask other providers to > bounce (return as undeliverable) emails with a yahoo address that were sent > from servers other than Yahoo's (like the mailing list server). Some email > providers have complied and even implemented a similar system. Gmail just > marks them as spam. > > The problem with bouncing emails is that the recipient never knows an > email was even sent, and the mailing list software unsubscribes people for > too many bounced emails. > > I've already explained this a couple of times on the TSA-talk list, but I > don't think I ever did here. > > > > Anyway, at some point in the future, I'll get around to reading, and > hopefully commenting on, your latest stories (as lately I've been too > depressed/busy to do so). > > Hope this helps, > -AlexSurikat > -AlexSurikat On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:48 PM, christian okane <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not sure. The list engine has always been odd. Perhaps being sure to > send the email in plain text format. > > > > Anyone with ideas? > > > > Chris > > The Lurking Fox > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jack Moore > *Sent:* Saturday, July 18, 2015 9:05 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Mkguild] MKGuild Digest, Vol 100, Issue 20 > > > > Is their anything I can do so people can read it? > > > > > > On Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:32 AM, "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Send MKGuild mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MKGuild digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Trust I (Bill Kieffer aka Greyflank) > 2. Re: Trust I (Ryx) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 08:06:54 -0400 > From: Bill Kieffer aka Greyflank <[email protected]> > To: "C. Matthias" <[email protected]>, Jack Moore > <[email protected]>, Metamor Keep > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Trust I > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > This is weird.? I am not getting the postings for Trust at all... only the > replies.? > (and yes, I checked the spam filters) > > > -Greyflank > > ---------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 06:06:07 -0400 > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Trust I > > > > At 08:57 PM 7/14/2015, Jack Moore wrote: > > > >>Trust > >> > >>To My Friend in the North > >> > >>Yes I know the last letter didn't make me sound good but it wasn't > >>supposed to. It's something I suspect Eli and I will discuss when I > >>meet Him. The crushing of the Host is something I still regret, but > >>there is no way for me to undo it. It was how I acted and I can't undo > it. > >> > >>And it is a sign of Eli's eternal mercy that the first time I steped > >>in to the Keep chapel that Yahshua didn't come off the cross and > >>beat me. I deserved it. And Nemo had every right to be mad at me. > >> > >>Patric especially, though. I wanted to apologize to him almost right > >>away but it was two weeks before I saw him again. In that time I > >>managed to annoy two people. The first was Sir Egland, the > >>second...a very well known vulpine. > >> > >>I want to discuss neither of these incidents but I have to. I might > >>as well start with the first, the time I met Sir Egland. He talked > >>to me, challenged me and then I vomited on him. > > > > This introduction made me laugh a good bit. Ack, lizard vomit > > awaits! How can I resist! LOL! > > > > > >>March 28th, 707 > >> > >>The sun slipped into my room from a small window above my bed. I > >>couldn't remember if the window had been there yesterday, but it was > >>now. It gave me some badly needed light but it also brought in the cold > air. > >> > >>My tail ached badly even though I was no longer sitting on it. The > >>tip dragged the ground, so I had to either walk with it up or endure. > > > > You're missing a word here: "dragged along the ground" or "dragged > > across the ground" > > > >>"Yeah wait and see." I tied my other foot up. "Perfect!" My feet > >>were wrapped in linens, held in place by crisscrossing leather > >>straps. They had grown to twice their previous length. Tying them up > >>caused my new claws to rub against my toes. > >> > >>"What do you think?" I asked my rodent friend. He took one look and > >>curled into a ball. I rolled my eyes. "Be completely honest, don't > >>hold anything back." I wrapped my skirt around me, trying still to > >>hide my tail. This despite its increased length. I might as well > >>have been trying to hide it with air. > > > > And here I thought it was a sarong and not a skirt. The cracks in > > his invented reality continue to spread! > > > >>"This still doesn't feel real..." I had purchased a scarf yesterday, > >>during a very brief excursion to the Market Square. I felt calmer > >>wrapping this aba around my neck since it hid the spines. Now only > >>my head was uncovered. > > > > "aba" => "about" > > > >>"My hairline is receding." I felt along the top of my skull. Yep, it > >>was vanishing and fast. My eyebrows had already disappeared. This > >>curse had taken my home, my way of life, my title and now my hair. > >> > >>Truly its evil knew no bounds. > > > > Not content with merely everything you knew before, but it also had > > to go for the hair. The dastardly horror! Most of us have to wait > > until we're forty for that to start happening. ;-) > > > >>"Know what I want to do?" The rat cocked his little head. "I'd like > >>to go hawking today." I grinned. "There's nothing quite like a day > >>spent with your hawk. My current one is Ulysses. > >> > >>"He's this...red-tailed hawk I've had for almost two years. He > >>uh...he's great. Just watching him fly" I shook my head, "I could do > >>it all day. I swear." > >> > >>Hawking is the greatest of all the pastimes. Hunting with arrows is > >>a bloody, violent past time I despise. I've never liked killing, but > >>when hawking at least the hawk can get a meal out of this. > >> > >>When you're hawking you are free. In the field, the wind blowing > >>through your hair and the hawk screeching as it circles above you, > >>you are at peace. You can forget your father's obsessive grooming > >>you to take over for him, your place in an Empire you don't know. > >> > >>"I don't think Duke what's his name even knows how to go hawking." I > >>said. "Who is running this place?" I scratched my head. "Nemo said > >>he was a horse...nope don't remember. > >> > >>"How can Duke Clip-Clop be a ruler and not enjoy hawking? It's > >>insane." Not as insane as was calling him Duke Clip-Clop to his face. > >> > >>Which I did. > >> > >>But not for a few months. > > > > First off, I love this depiction of hawking. It shows him to be that > > spoiled Lord's brat and very human at the same time. We see > > something he enjoys doing, something that makes him feel like > > himself. This makes it all the more sad that he likely doesn't have > > his hawk anymore because this is exactly the sort of thing we'd like > > to see him get the chance to do! > > > > And calling Thomas Duke Clip-Clop is actually really funny right now > > because Thomas is still under the halter's influence and in another > > month will nearly succumb. If he'd done it now Thomas probably would > > have reacted with a bemused, faraway grin. Not so much in a few months. > ;-) > > > >>"I need out of this room." I stretched and stood. "I need a whore > >>very badly. I need a whore, where is the brothel?" I yawned. "God > >>almighty. Think think, think...oh I know where it is!" > >> > >>Yesterday I had heard someone discussing a business somewhere in > >>Euper. From the name, I knew it had to be a brothel. "It's called > >>the Jolly Collie inn! How can it not be a brothel?" > >> > >>In my defense, that does sound like the name of a brothel. > > > > ROTFLMTO!!!! > > > >>"I'll find the brothel and then I'll...maybe I'll fuck a dog girl." > >>I shrugged. "Never done that before. What do you think?" My rat > >>sniffed curiously. I smiled and stroked his fur. > > > > And that touching moment of humanity is flushed away. > > > >>"Well you're becoming a lizard- > >> > >>"I am not!" > > > > Slipping back from Anger to Denial I see. > > > >>-And as a lizard you will not be able to handle cold temperatures. > >>So this" He gestured at the floor, "needs to change. I'd recommend > >>we go find something, carpeting, thrushes, sand or something else." > > > > Thrushes or sand probably fits their budget better. In this age > > carpeting would still be very expensive. > > > >>"Actually no. I'm tired but not bad tired. I just feel peculiar." He > >>held up his hands. "My skin is less rugose. I wonder, perhaps a > >>result of this beneficent place?" I rolled my eyes. > >> > >>"Can't you just say stuff without me wondering what you're talking > >>about?" Nemo shrugged. > > > > This is why some folks are having trouble knowing who is > > speaking. You haven't noted who is speaking, but you mention the > > other person in the narrative description. I recommend trying to > > make it more obvious who is speaking, by noting what they are doing > > while they are speaking. Reactions are fine, but when the only > > person you mention when person A is speaking is person B then things > > get confusing. > > > > I do observe that in other parts of this conversation you do have "I > > said" show up a few times and that's good. No need to go overkill on > > it, just keep a wary eye on it. > > > >>"And it just...it sucks! I can't fix it! I don't want to fucking be > >>here! I want to burn this place, this Keep and my fucking tail!" > >> > >>"I didn't know you had grown a tail." I cocked my head. > >> > >>"Excuse me?" Nemo smiled. > >> > >>"I'd like to see you wear fewer rags. I bet your tail looks > >>magnificent on you." It does look fantastic on me now. Then though > >>it was a fleshy nuisance wrapped in scales, a reminder of my beastly > fate. > >> > >>"I thought I told you about this..." Nemo shook his head. "Well I > >>did, I've got a fucking tail and no you can't see it. You wanna see, > >>grow one of your own." Nemo sighed. > > > > This section above here is probably the worst for what I meant. In > > context I know who is who, but if you didn't, it'd be very easy to > > think the opposite person is speaking each line and then get confused by > it. > > > >>"I would be so lucky. I suspect I am not though James." He untied > >>our money bag, at his waste as always, and pulled out a few shiny > >>coins. Silver I believe maybe a few coppers. "James you need to > >>learn to prioritize and I need to know I can trust you. I want to > >>give you this money but I know what you will use it for." > > > > "waste" => "waist" > > > >>"I admire your bravado. One thing I'm going to purchase today is a > >>pot. We might need one." > >> > >>"Yeah yeah." I stood up. "Look thanks for the money, I won't > >>disappoint you. Promise." > >> > >>And I did intend to keep that promise. I really did. Just...things > happened. > > > > LOL! What a great line to end things on here. Ah, James, we go from > > feeling sorry for you and wanting to cheer you up to rolling our eyes > > and wanting to give you a good slap to wake you up. Apart from the > > few things I noted I think this is going very well, Jack! > > > > May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love, > > > > Charles Matthias > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MKGuild mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:28:59 +0000 (UTC) > From: Ryx <[email protected]> > To: Metamor Keep <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Trust I > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Same here - > I got that last one I made a brief comment on, but having perused > Mattrat's replies I'm a bit more keen on actually giving this work a read! > > > On Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:06 AM, Bill Kieffer aka Greyflank < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > This is weird.? I am not getting the postings for Trust at all... only the > replies.? > (and yes, I checked the spam filters) > > > -Greyflank > > ---------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 06:06:07 -0400 > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Trust I > > > > At 08:57 PM 7/14/2015, Jack Moore wrote: > > > >>Trust > >> > >>To My Friend in the North > >> > >>Yes I know the last letter didn't make me sound good but it wasn't > >>supposed to. It's something I suspect Eli and I will discuss when I > >>meet Him. The crushing of the Host is something I still regret, but > >>there is no way for me to undo it. It was how I acted and I can't undo > it. > >> > >>And it is a sign of Eli's eternal mercy that the first time I steped > >>in to the Keep chapel that Yahshua didn't come off the cross and > >>beat me. I deserved it. And Nemo had every right to be mad at me. > >> > >>Patric especially, though. I wanted to apologize to him almost right > >>away but it was two weeks before I saw him again. In that time I > >>managed to annoy two people. The first was Sir Egland, the > >>second...a very well known vulpine. > >> > >>I want to discuss neither of these incidents but I have to. I might > >>as well start with the first, the time I met Sir Egland. He talked > >>to me, challenged me and then I vomited on him. > > > > This introduction made me laugh a good bit. Ack, lizard vomit > > awaits! How can I resist! LOL! > > > > > >>March 28th, 707 > >> > >>The sun slipped into my room from a small window above my bed. I > >>couldn't remember if the window had been there yesterday, but it was > >>now. It gave me some badly needed light but it also brought in the cold > air. > >> > >>My tail ached badly even though I was no longer sitting on it. The > >>tip dragged the ground, so I had to either walk with it up or endure. > > > > You're missing a word here: "dragged along the ground" or "dragged > > across the ground" > > > >>"Yeah wait and see." I tied my other foot up. "Perfect!" My feet > >>were wrapped in linens, held in place by crisscrossing leather > >>straps. They had grown to twice their previous length. Tying them up > >>caused my new claws to rub against my toes. > >> > >>"What do you think?" I asked my rodent friend. He took one look and > >>curled into a ball. I rolled my eyes. "Be completely honest, don't > >>hold anything back." I wrapped my skirt around me, trying still to > >>hide my tail. This despite its increased length. I might as well > >>have been trying to hide it with air. > > > > And here I thought it was a sarong and not a skirt. The cracks in > > his invented reality continue to spread! > > > >>"This still doesn't feel real..." I had purchased a scarf yesterday, > >>during a very brief excursion to the Market Square. I felt calmer > >>wrapping this aba around my neck since it hid the spines. Now only > >>my head was uncovered. > > > > "aba" => "about" > > > >>"My hairline is receding." I felt along the top of my skull. Yep, it > >>was vanishing and fast. My eyebrows had already disappeared. This > >>curse had taken my home, my way of life, my title and now my hair. > >> > >>Truly its evil knew no bounds. > > > > Not content with merely everything you knew before, but it also had > > to go for the hair. The dastardly horror! Most of us have to wait > > until we're forty for that to start happening. ;-) > > > >>"Know what I want to do?" The rat cocked his little head. "I'd like > >>to go hawking today." I grinned. "There's nothing quite like a day > >>spent with your hawk. My current one is Ulysses. > >> > >>"He's this...red-tailed hawk I've had for almost two years. He > >>uh...he's great. Just watching him fly" I shook my head, "I could do > >>it all day. I swear." > >> > >>Hawking is the greatest of all the pastimes. Hunting with arrows is > >>a bloody, violent past time I despise. I've never liked killing, but > >>when hawking at least the hawk can get a meal out of this. > >> > >>When you're hawking you are free. In the field, the wind blowing > >>through your hair and the hawk screeching as it circles above you, > >>you are at peace. You can forget your father's obsessive grooming > >>you to take over for him, your place in an Empire you don't know. > >> > >>"I don't think Duke what's his name even knows how to go hawking." I > >>said. "Who is running this place?" I scratched my head. "Nemo said > >>he was a horse...nope don't remember. > >> > >>"How can Duke Clip-Clop be a ruler and not enjoy hawking? It's > >>insane." Not as insane as was calling him Duke Clip-Clop to his face. > >> > >>Which I did. > >> > >>But not for a few months. > > > > First off, I love this depiction of hawking. It shows him to be that > > spoiled Lord's brat and very human at the same time. We see > > something he enjoys doing, something that makes him feel like > > himself. This makes it all the more sad that he likely doesn't have > > his hawk anymore because this is exactly the sort of thing we'd like > > to see him get the chance to do! > > > > And calling Thomas Duke Clip-Clop is actually really funny right now > > because Thomas is still under the halter's influence and in another > > month will nearly succumb. If he'd done it now Thomas probably would > > have reacted with a bemused, faraway grin. Not so much in a few months. > ;-) > > > >>"I need out of this room." I stretched and stood. "I need a whore > >>very badly. I need a whore, where is the brothel?" I yawned. "God > >>almighty. Think think, think...oh I know where it is!" > >> > >>Yesterday I had heard someone discussing a business somewhere in > >>Euper. From the name, I knew it had to be a brothel. "It's called > >>the Jolly Collie inn! How can it not be a brothel?" > >> > >>In my defense, that does sound like the name of a brothel. > > > > ROTFLMTO!!!! > > > >>"I'll find the brothel and then I'll...maybe I'll fuck a dog girl." > >>I shrugged. "Never done that before. What do you think?" My rat > >>sniffed curiously. I smiled and stroked his fur. > > > > And that touching moment of humanity is flushed away. > > > >>"Well you're becoming a lizard- > >> > >>"I am not!" > > > > Slipping back from Anger to Denial I see. > > > >>-And as a lizard you will not be able to handle cold temperatures. > >>So this" He gestured at the floor, "needs to change. I'd recommend > >>we go find something, carpeting, thrushes, sand or something else." > > > > Thrushes or sand probably fits their budget better. In this age > > carpeting would still be very expensive. > > > >>"Actually no. I'm tired but not bad tired. I just feel peculiar." He > >>held up his hands. "My skin is less rugose. I wonder, perhaps a > >>result of this beneficent place?" I rolled my eyes. > >> > >>"Can't you just say stuff without me wondering what you're talking > >>about?" Nemo shrugged. > > > > This is why some folks are having trouble knowing who is > > speaking. You haven't noted who is speaking, but you mention the > > other person in the narrative description. I recommend trying to > > make it more obvious who is speaking, by noting what they are doing > > while they are speaking. Reactions are fine, but when the only > > person you mention when person A is speaking is person B then things > > get confusing. > > > > I do observe that in other parts of this conversation you do have "I > > said" show up a few times and that's good. No need to go overkill on > > it, just keep a wary eye on it. > > > >>"And it just...it sucks! I can't fix it! I don't want to fucking be > >>here! I want to burn this place, this Keep and my fucking tail!" > >> > >>"I didn't know you had grown a tail." I cocked my head. > >> > >>"Excuse me?" Nemo smiled. > >> > >>"I'd like to see you wear fewer rags. I bet your tail looks > >>magnificent on you." It does look fantastic on me now. Then though > >>it was a fleshy nuisance wrapped in scales, a reminder of my beastly > fate. > >> > >>"I thought I told you about this..." Nemo shook his head. "Well I > >>did, I've got a fucking tail and no you can't see it. You wanna see, > >>grow one of your own." Nemo sighed. > > > > This section above here is probably the worst for what I meant. In > > context I know who is who, but if you didn't, it'd be very easy to > > think the opposite person is speaking each line and then get confused by > it. > > > >>"I would be so lucky. I suspect I am not though James." He untied > >>our money bag, at his waste as always, and pulled out a few shiny > >>coins. Silver I believe maybe a few coppers. "James you need to > >>learn to prioritize and I need to know I can trust you. I want to > >>give you this money but I know what you will use it for." > > > > "waste" => "waist" > > > >>"I admire your bravado. One thing I'm going to purchase today is a > >>pot. We might need one." > >> > >>"Yeah yeah." I stood up. "Look thanks for the money, I won't > >>disappoint you. Promise." > >> > >>And I did intend to keep that promise. I really did. Just...things > happened. > > > > LOL! What a great line to end things on here. Ah, James, we go from > > feeling sorry for you and wanting to cheer you up to rolling our eyes > > and wanting to give you a good slap to wake you up. Apart from the > > few things I noted I think this is going very well, Jack! > > > > May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love, > > > > Charles Matthias > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MKGuild mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > ??? ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ? > _______________________________________________ > MKGuild mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.integral.org/archives/mkguild/attachments/20150718/893432a2/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > MKGuild mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > > End of MKGuild Digest, Vol 100, Issue 20 > **************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > MKGuild mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:48 PM, christian okane <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not sure. The list engine has always been odd. Perhaps being sure to > send the email in plain text format. > > > > Anyone with ideas? > > > > Chris > > The Lurking Fox > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jack Moore > *Sent:* Saturday, July 18, 2015 9:05 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Mkguild] MKGuild Digest, Vol 100, Issue 20 > > > > Is their anything I can do so people can read it? > > > > > > On Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:32 AM, "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Send MKGuild mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MKGuild digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Trust I (Bill Kieffer aka Greyflank) > 2. Re: Trust I (Ryx) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 08:06:54 -0400 > From: Bill Kieffer aka Greyflank <[email protected]> > To: "C. Matthias" <[email protected]>, Jack Moore > <[email protected]>, Metamor Keep > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Trust I > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > This is weird.? I am not getting the postings for Trust at all... only the > replies.? > (and yes, I checked the spam filters) > > > -Greyflank > > ---------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 06:06:07 -0400 > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Trust I > > > > At 08:57 PM 7/14/2015, Jack Moore wrote: > > > >>Trust > >> > >>To My Friend in the North > >> > >>Yes I know the last letter didn't make me sound good but it wasn't > >>supposed to. It's something I suspect Eli and I will discuss when I > >>meet Him. The crushing of the Host is something I still regret, but > >>there is no way for me to undo it. It was how I acted and I can't undo > it. > >> > >>And it is a sign of Eli's eternal mercy that the first time I steped > >>in to the Keep chapel that Yahshua didn't come off the cross and > >>beat me. I deserved it. And Nemo had every right to be mad at me. > >> > >>Patric especially, though. I wanted to apologize to him almost right > >>away but it was two weeks before I saw him again. In that time I > >>managed to annoy two people. The first was Sir Egland, the > >>second...a very well known vulpine. > >> > >>I want to discuss neither of these incidents but I have to. I might > >>as well start with the first, the time I met Sir Egland. He talked > >>to me, challenged me and then I vomited on him. > > > > This introduction made me laugh a good bit. Ack, lizard vomit > > awaits! How can I resist! LOL! > > > > > >>March 28th, 707 > >> > >>The sun slipped into my room from a small window above my bed. I > >>couldn't remember if the window had been there yesterday, but it was > >>now. It gave me some badly needed light but it also brought in the cold > air. > >> > >>My tail ached badly even though I was no longer sitting on it. The > >>tip dragged the ground, so I had to either walk with it up or endure. > > > > You're missing a word here: "dragged along the ground" or "dragged > > across the ground" > > > >>"Yeah wait and see." I tied my other foot up. "Perfect!" My feet > >>were wrapped in linens, held in place by crisscrossing leather > >>straps. They had grown to twice their previous length. Tying them up > >>caused my new claws to rub against my toes. > >> > >>"What do you think?" I asked my rodent friend. He took one look and > >>curled into a ball. I rolled my eyes. "Be completely honest, don't > >>hold anything back." I wrapped my skirt around me, trying still to > >>hide my tail. This despite its increased length. I might as well > >>have been trying to hide it with air. > > > > And here I thought it was a sarong and not a skirt. The cracks in > > his invented reality continue to spread! > > > >>"This still doesn't feel real..." I had purchased a scarf yesterday, > >>during a very brief excursion to the Market Square. I felt calmer > >>wrapping this aba around my neck since it hid the spines. Now only > >>my head was uncovered. > > > > "aba" => "about" > > > >>"My hairline is receding." I felt along the top of my skull. Yep, it > >>was vanishing and fast. My eyebrows had already disappeared. This > >>curse had taken my home, my way of life, my title and now my hair. > >> > >>Truly its evil knew no bounds. > > > > Not content with merely everything you knew before, but it also had > > to go for the hair. The dastardly horror! Most of us have to wait > > until we're forty for that to start happening. ;-) > > > >>"Know what I want to do?" The rat cocked his little head. "I'd like > >>to go hawking today." I grinned. "There's nothing quite like a day > >>spent with your hawk. My current one is Ulysses. > >> > >>"He's this...red-tailed hawk I've had for almost two years. He > >>uh...he's great. Just watching him fly" I shook my head, "I could do > >>it all day. I swear." > >> > >>Hawking is the greatest of all the pastimes. Hunting with arrows is > >>a bloody, violent past time I despise. I've never liked killing, but > >>when hawking at least the hawk can get a meal out of this. > >> > >>When you're hawking you are free. In the field, the wind blowing > >>through your hair and the hawk screeching as it circles above you, > >>you are at peace. You can forget your father's obsessive grooming > >>you to take over for him, your place in an Empire you don't know. > >> > >>"I don't think Duke what's his name even knows how to go hawking." I > >>said. "Who is running this place?" I scratched my head. "Nemo said > >>he was a horse...nope don't remember. > >> > >>"How can Duke Clip-Clop be a ruler and not enjoy hawking? It's > >>insane." Not as insane as was calling him Duke Clip-Clop to his face. > >> > >>Which I did. > >> > >>But not for a few months. > > > > First off, I love this depiction of hawking. It shows him to be that > > spoiled Lord's brat and very human at the same time. We see > > something he enjoys doing, something that makes him feel like > > himself. This makes it all the more sad that he likely doesn't have > > his hawk anymore because this is exactly the sort of thing we'd like > > to see him get the chance to do! > > > > And calling Thomas Duke Clip-Clop is actually really funny right now > > because Thomas is still under the halter's influence and in another > > month will nearly succumb. If he'd done it now Thomas probably would > > have reacted with a bemused, faraway grin. Not so much in a few months. > ;-) > > > >>"I need out of this room." I stretched and stood. "I need a whore > >>very badly. I need a whore, where is the brothel?" I yawned. "God > >>almighty. Think think, think...oh I know where it is!" > >> > >>Yesterday I had heard someone discussing a business somewhere in > >>Euper. From the name, I knew it had to be a brothel. "It's called > >>the Jolly Collie inn! How can it not be a brothel?" > >> > >>In my defense, that does sound like the name of a brothel. > > > > ROTFLMTO!!!! > > > >>"I'll find the brothel and then I'll...maybe I'll fuck a dog girl." > >>I shrugged. "Never done that before. What do you think?" My rat > >>sniffed curiously. I smiled and stroked his fur. > > > > And that touching moment of humanity is flushed away. > > > >>"Well you're becoming a lizard- > >> > >>"I am not!" > > > > Slipping back from Anger to Denial I see. > > > >>-And as a lizard you will not be able to handle cold temperatures. > >>So this" He gestured at the floor, "needs to change. I'd recommend > >>we go find something, carpeting, thrushes, sand or something else." > > > > Thrushes or sand probably fits their budget better. In this age > > carpeting would still be very expensive. > > > >>"Actually no. I'm tired but not bad tired. I just feel peculiar." He > >>held up his hands. "My skin is less rugose. I wonder, perhaps a > >>result of this beneficent place?" I rolled my eyes. > >> > >>"Can't you just say stuff without me wondering what you're talking > >>about?" Nemo shrugged. > > > > This is why some folks are having trouble knowing who is > > speaking. You haven't noted who is speaking, but you mention the > > other person in the narrative description. I recommend trying to > > make it more obvious who is speaking, by noting what they are doing > > while they are speaking. Reactions are fine, but when the only > > person you mention when person A is speaking is person B then things > > get confusing. > > > > I do observe that in other parts of this conversation you do have "I > > said" show up a few times and that's good. No need to go overkill on > > it, just keep a wary eye on it. > > > >>"And it just...it sucks! I can't fix it! I don't want to fucking be > >>here! I want to burn this place, this Keep and my fucking tail!" > >> > >>"I didn't know you had grown a tail." I cocked my head. > >> > >>"Excuse me?" Nemo smiled. > >> > >>"I'd like to see you wear fewer rags. I bet your tail looks > >>magnificent on you." It does look fantastic on me now. Then though > >>it was a fleshy nuisance wrapped in scales, a reminder of my beastly > fate. > >> > >>"I thought I told you about this..." Nemo shook his head. "Well I > >>did, I've got a fucking tail and no you can't see it. You wanna see, > >>grow one of your own." Nemo sighed. > > > > This section above here is probably the worst for what I meant. In > > context I know who is who, but if you didn't, it'd be very easy to > > think the opposite person is speaking each line and then get confused by > it. > > > >>"I would be so lucky. I suspect I am not though James." He untied > >>our money bag, at his waste as always, and pulled out a few shiny > >>coins. Silver I believe maybe a few coppers. "James you need to > >>learn to prioritize and I need to know I can trust you. I want to > >>give you this money but I know what you will use it for." > > > > "waste" => "waist" > > > >>"I admire your bravado. One thing I'm going to purchase today is a > >>pot. We might need one." > >> > >>"Yeah yeah." I stood up. "Look thanks for the money, I won't > >>disappoint you. Promise." > >> > >>And I did intend to keep that promise. I really did. Just...things > happened. > > > > LOL! What a great line to end things on here. Ah, James, we go from > > feeling sorry for you and wanting to cheer you up to rolling our eyes > > and wanting to give you a good slap to wake you up. Apart from the > > few things I noted I think this is going very well, Jack! > > > > May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love, > > > > Charles Matthias > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MKGuild mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:28:59 +0000 (UTC) > From: Ryx <[email protected]> > To: Metamor Keep <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Trust I > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Same here - > I got that last one I made a brief comment on, but having perused > Mattrat's replies I'm a bit more keen on actually giving this work a read! > > > On Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:06 AM, Bill Kieffer aka Greyflank < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > This is weird.? I am not getting the postings for Trust at all... only the > replies.? > (and yes, I checked the spam filters) > > > -Greyflank > > ---------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 06:06:07 -0400 > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Trust I > > > > At 08:57 PM 7/14/2015, Jack Moore wrote: > > > >>Trust > >> > >>To My Friend in the North > >> > >>Yes I know the last letter didn't make me sound good but it wasn't > >>supposed to. It's something I suspect Eli and I will discuss when I > >>meet Him. The crushing of the Host is something I still regret, but > >>there is no way for me to undo it. It was how I acted and I can't undo > it. > >> > >>And it is a sign of Eli's eternal mercy that the first time I steped > >>in to the Keep chapel that Yahshua didn't come off the cross and > >>beat me. I deserved it. And Nemo had every right to be mad at me. > >> > >>Patric especially, though. I wanted to apologize to him almost right > >>away but it was two weeks before I saw him again. In that time I > >>managed to annoy two people. The first was Sir Egland, the > >>second...a very well known vulpine. > >> > >>I want to discuss neither of these incidents but I have to. I might > >>as well start with the first, the time I met Sir Egland. He talked > >>to me, challenged me and then I vomited on him. > > > > This introduction made me laugh a good bit. Ack, lizard vomit > > awaits! How can I resist! LOL! > > > > > >>March 28th, 707 > >> > >>The sun slipped into my room from a small window above my bed. I > >>couldn't remember if the window had been there yesterday, but it was > >>now. It gave me some badly needed light but it also brought in the cold > air. > >> > >>My tail ached badly even though I was no longer sitting on it. The > >>tip dragged the ground, so I had to either walk with it up or endure. > > > > You're missing a word here: "dragged along the ground" or "dragged > > across the ground" > > > >>"Yeah wait and see." I tied my other foot up. "Perfect!" My feet > >>were wrapped in linens, held in place by crisscrossing leather > >>straps. They had grown to twice their previous length. Tying them up > >>caused my new claws to rub against my toes. > >> > >>"What do you think?" I asked my rodent friend. He took one look and > >>curled into a ball. I rolled my eyes. "Be completely honest, don't > >>hold anything back." I wrapped my skirt around me, trying still to > >>hide my tail. This despite its increased length. I might as well > >>have been trying to hide it with air. > > > > And here I thought it was a sarong and not a skirt. The cracks in > > his invented reality continue to spread! > > > >>"This still doesn't feel real..." I had purchased a scarf yesterday, > >>during a very brief excursion to the Market Square. I felt calmer > >>wrapping this aba around my neck since it hid the spines. Now only > >>my head was uncovered. > > > > "aba" => "about" > > > >>"My hairline is receding." I felt along the top of my skull. Yep, it > >>was vanishing and fast. My eyebrows had already disappeared. This > >>curse had taken my home, my way of life, my title and now my hair. > >> > >>Truly its evil knew no bounds. > > > > Not content with merely everything you knew before, but it also had > > to go for the hair. The dastardly horror! Most of us have to wait > > until we're forty for that to start happening. ;-) > > > >>"Know what I want to do?" The rat cocked his little head. "I'd like > >>to go hawking today." I grinned. "There's nothing quite like a day > >>spent with your hawk. My current one is Ulysses. > >> > >>"He's this...red-tailed hawk I've had for almost two years. He > >>uh...he's great. Just watching him fly" I shook my head, "I could do > >>it all day. I swear." > >> > >>Hawking is the greatest of all the pastimes. Hunting with arrows is > >>a bloody, violent past time I despise. I've never liked killing, but > >>when hawking at least the hawk can get a meal out of this. > >> > >>When you're hawking you are free. In the field, the wind blowing > >>through your hair and the hawk screeching as it circles above you, > >>you are at peace. You can forget your father's obsessive grooming > >>you to take over for him, your place in an Empire you don't know. > >> > >>"I don't think Duke what's his name even knows how to go hawking." I > >>said. "Who is running this place?" I scratched my head. "Nemo said > >>he was a horse...nope don't remember. > >> > >>"How can Duke Clip-Clop be a ruler and not enjoy hawking? It's > >>insane." Not as insane as was calling him Duke Clip-Clop to his face. > >> > >>Which I did. > >> > >>But not for a few months. > > > > First off, I love this depiction of hawking. It shows him to be that > > spoiled Lord's brat and very human at the same time. We see > > something he enjoys doing, something that makes him feel like > > himself. This makes it all the more sad that he likely doesn't have > > his hawk anymore because this is exactly the sort of thing we'd like > > to see him get the chance to do! > > > > And calling Thomas Duke Clip-Clop is actually really funny right now > > because Thomas is still under the halter's influence and in another > > month will nearly succumb. If he'd done it now Thomas probably would > > have reacted with a bemused, faraway grin. Not so much in a few months. > ;-) > > > >>"I need out of this room." I stretched and stood. "I need a whore > >>very badly. I need a whore, where is the brothel?" I yawned. "God > >>almighty. Think think, think...oh I know where it is!" > >> > >>Yesterday I had heard someone discussing a business somewhere in > >>Euper. From the name, I knew it had to be a brothel. "It's called > >>the Jolly Collie inn! How can it not be a brothel?" > >> > >>In my defense, that does sound like the name of a brothel. > > > > ROTFLMTO!!!! > > > >>"I'll find the brothel and then I'll...maybe I'll fuck a dog girl." > >>I shrugged. "Never done that before. What do you think?" My rat > >>sniffed curiously. I smiled and stroked his fur. > > > > And that touching moment of humanity is flushed away. > > > >>"Well you're becoming a lizard- > >> > >>"I am not!" > > > > Slipping back from Anger to Denial I see. > > > >>-And as a lizard you will not be able to handle cold temperatures. > >>So this" He gestured at the floor, "needs to change. I'd recommend > >>we go find something, carpeting, thrushes, sand or something else." > > > > Thrushes or sand probably fits their budget better. In this age > > carpeting would still be very expensive. > > > >>"Actually no. I'm tired but not bad tired. I just feel peculiar." He > >>held up his hands. "My skin is less rugose. I wonder, perhaps a > >>result of this beneficent place?" I rolled my eyes. > >> > >>"Can't you just say stuff without me wondering what you're talking > >>about?" Nemo shrugged. > > > > This is why some folks are having trouble knowing who is > > speaking. You haven't noted who is speaking, but you mention the > > other person in the narrative description. I recommend trying to > > make it more obvious who is speaking, by noting what they are doing > > while they are speaking. Reactions are fine, but when the only > > person you mention when person A is speaking is person B then things > > get confusing. > > > > I do observe that in other parts of this conversation you do have "I > > said" show up a few times and that's good. No need to go overkill on > > it, just keep a wary eye on it. > > > >>"And it just...it sucks! I can't fix it! I don't want to fucking be > >>here! I want to burn this place, this Keep and my fucking tail!" > >> > >>"I didn't know you had grown a tail." I cocked my head. > >> > >>"Excuse me?" Nemo smiled. > >> > >>"I'd like to see you wear fewer rags. I bet your tail looks > >>magnificent on you." It does look fantastic on me now. Then though > >>it was a fleshy nuisance wrapped in scales, a reminder of my beastly > fate. > >> > >>"I thought I told you about this..." Nemo shook his head. "Well I > >>did, I've got a fucking tail and no you can't see it. You wanna see, > >>grow one of your own." Nemo sighed. > > > > This section above here is probably the worst for what I meant. In > > context I know who is who, but if you didn't, it'd be very easy to > > think the opposite person is speaking each line and then get confused by > it. > > > >>"I would be so lucky. I suspect I am not though James." He untied > >>our money bag, at his waste as always, and pulled out a few shiny > >>coins. Silver I believe maybe a few coppers. "James you need to > >>learn to prioritize and I need to know I can trust you. I want to > >>give you this money but I know what you will use it for." > > > > "waste" => "waist" > > > >>"I admire your bravado. One thing I'm going to purchase today is a > >>pot. We might need one." > >> > >>"Yeah yeah." I stood up. "Look thanks for the money, I won't > >>disappoint you. Promise." > >> > >>And I did intend to keep that promise. I really did. Just...things > happened. > > > > LOL! What a great line to end things on here. Ah, James, we go from > > feeling sorry for you and wanting to cheer you up to rolling our eyes > > and wanting to give you a good slap to wake you up. Apart from the > > few things I noted I think this is going very well, Jack! > > > > May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love, > > > > Charles Matthias > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MKGuild mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > ??? ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ? > _______________________________________________ > MKGuild mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.integral.org/archives/mkguild/attachments/20150718/893432a2/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > MKGuild mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > > End of MKGuild Digest, Vol 100, Issue 20 > **************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > MKGuild mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > >
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