> I do not know what you are talking about (properties are being set)
> and what you mean by ".new". If you refer to the properties that are
> set in the various C init functions, then it does not matter.
That is what I meant.

>  I was using swig v2.0.4.
And I v2.0.7

If you get interested in scratching your itch, I look forward to what you come 
up with. Otherwise I will continue to try to debug this as problems arise and I 
will keep you updated if I find the bug.
--
aaron

On May 7, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Dan Dennedy wrote:

> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Aaron Cruz <aa...@aaroncruz.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for looking into this. I will run some more tests.
>> 
>> What do you mean by "when the playlist is deleted"? Because setting it to
>> nil was not affecting anything on my side.
> 
> I mean when you work in C++ and delete the playlist or when you work
> in C and call mlt_playlist_close().
> 
>> You say that Mlt::Producer.new is the preferred form. Is that also true with
>> Mlt::Factory.consumer? Why?
> 
> yes, the C++ constructors for Producer, Consumer, Transition, and
> Filter use mlt_factory. The reason it is preferred is simply because
> it is the cleanest and most obvious thing to use in the high level
> languages. Playlist does not go through a factory because it is not
> extensible at the C level - same goes for Multitrack and Tractor.
> 
>> I see in your source that a lot of properties
>> are being set on .new and it looks like the defaults on Factory.x are maybe
>> different (I can't find exactly where they are).
> 
> I do not know what you are talking about (properties are being set)
> and what you mean by ".new". If you refer to the properties that are
> set in the various C init functions, then it does not matter.
> Technically there is no difference between using Mlt::Factory.producer
> and Mlt::Producer.new because the Factory methods simply invoke the
> appropriate constructor! The fact that I am seeing different behavior
> in ruby when making that change says something about the swig
> definition - at least for ruby - even though it has declared the
> Factory methods as %newobject. However, the biggest surprise is the
> failure to destroy a playlist (after nil and GC) even though
> Mlt::Playlist.new is a plain old constructor and not needing a
> %newobject! That is a total head scratcher. I was using swig v2.0.4.
> 
>> BTW, if you want to play with this stuff in Ruby and get some great info,
>> there is an irb replacement called pry. It has great stuff like calling 'ls'
>> on classes or objects to get all the class/instance methods/variables up the
>> call list. It is how I discovered most of the mlt library before I could
>> read C. You can even cd into classes or instances to look around. You can
>> also view the ruby and C source code for classes/methods
>> https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Source-browsing
>> Here is a little sample
>> https://gist.github.com/pferdefleisch/635ea97b169546a04dd0
>> Sorry for the aside :)
>> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Dan Dennedy wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Aaron Cruz <aa...@aaroncruz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No, it isn't open source (ATM). I would like to release part of it at some
>> 
>> point.
>> 
>> 
>> The project is basically a simple RESTful web server wrapping the ruby swig
>> 
>> bindings that takes in API calls and consumes and produces JSON. It is
>> 
>> pretty much a ruby http version of melted that speaks JSON. If necessary I
>> 
>> could write up a dumbed down version for you to test.
>> 
>> 
>> But I can't even get the garbage collection to work correctly with the
>> 
>> sample script I showed you. Once I got that to work I could use that
>> 
>> solution to see what I can do to fix my memory issues in my project.
>> 
>> 
>> If you haven't run the script, I highly recommend it.
>> 
>> I am running mlt 0.8.2 and ruby 1.9.3p327 on OSX 10.7.5
>> 
>> I have also tested mlt 0.8.2 with ruby 1.8.7p358 on ubuntu precise64 with
>> 
>> the same results. With this version, it seems to be releasing about 2MB RAM
>> 
>> after the nils and GC.
>> 
>> 
>> I did a little testing last night with your script. I put printfs in
>> the Producer and Playlist destructors, and I noticed that they were
>> not being called. When I changed Mlt::Factory.producer to
>> Mlt::Producer.new (the preferred form), I saw the producer destructors
>> being called. (By that time I was not using the exact same script as
>> you, so you may not necessarily see the exact same results.)
>> Nonetheless, for some strange reason, I never saw the Playlist
>> destructor called, and the playlist holds a reference to every
>> producer added to it, which it eventually releases when either the
>> producer is removed, when autoclose=1 and the producer has played out,
>> or when the playlist is deleted.
>> 
>> Both of these i have tried w/ and w/o %trackobjects;
>> 
>> 
>> I believe it is a swig definition problem, but I do not think
>> %trackobjects will solve it. In fact, it might make the problem worse
>> as it seems like it is more suited towards C++ classes that do not use
>> reference counting. I am not sure how much more effort I will put into
>> it. The effort I put forth now is based purely on curiosity, but I do
>> have other pressing concerns.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> aaron
>> 
>> 
>> On May 6, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Dan Dennedy wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This has worked in the past. I need to know more about your
>> 
>> application before I offer to debug these things for you. Is it an
>> 
>> open source project?
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Aaron Cruz <aa...@aaroncruz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Dan,
>> 
>> 
>> What you suggested (setting to nil) has never worked for me in the past.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just created a little test to showcase this here
>> 
>> 
>> https://gist.github.com/pferdefleisch/1e448e3257837ebeb2b3
>> 
>> 
>> My memory is never released. It stayed in my test with 100 short .movs right
>> 
>> 
>> around 200MB with 0.0% CPU.
>> 
>> 
>> I also tried something that I found on the SWIG page with the mlt.i file
>> 
>> 
>> (you can see in the gist).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since there seems to be no garbage collected playlist factory, I tried the
>> 
>> 
>> same test above but with just connecting the consumer to a non-playlist
>> 
>> 
>> producer with the same results, no memory released.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have also seen strange things happen like when I set 'autoclose' to 1, as
>> 
>> 
>> mlt plays my list, clips are removed, but memory is only released, and only
>> 
>> 
>> a tiny bit, when I append new videos. Maybe this is a separate bug.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> thanks for your time,
>> 
>> 
>> aaron
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 5, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Dan Dennedy wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Aaron Cruz <aa...@aaroncruz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am trying to create a reset functionality in my Ruby code that will clean
>> 
>> 
>> up my consumer and playlist (Mlt::Factory.consumer and Mlt::Playlist
>> 
>> 
>> respectively).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It seems like both the mlt_playlist_close and mlt_consumer_close functions
>> 
>> 
>> were made for this but they are not included in the SWIG bindings.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is there a reason they were left out?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is there a better way to to this with the already provided interface?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would like my server to handle the reset instead of having to reset my
>> 
>> 
>> server. I am also still having memory leak issues and I would like to tweak
>> 
>> 
>> some things like this for some experiments.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Aaron
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The C++ destructors call the C close functions. When you release
>> 
>> 
>> references in a scripting language and garbage collection occurs, then
>> 
>> 
>> the C++ destructors are called. If you want to make cleanup more
>> 
>> 
>> immediate in the scripting language runtime, then set the vars holding
>> 
>> 
>> reference to nil and force processing the garbage collection. If you
>> 
>> 
>> call the C close functions directly, then the C++ destructors will
>> 
>> 
>> (eventually) call close on invalid pointers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> +-DRD-+
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> +-DRD-+
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> +-DRD-+
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> +-DRD-+


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