If you want to strip/modify/customise your system, Mandrake and Fedora are probably the worst choices.

If you're a newbie user, or just want an easy to use OS that runs on your machine out of the box, they're probably the best choices.

I'd love to see a newbie try to live with Debian...


Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti wrote:

I run Gentoo on 2 machines (currently installing it as we speak on a PII 266 Dell Inspiron 3000). I also have an old install of Debian running around on an adorable Toshiba Libretto CT50.

When you install linux on a laptop, you almost always seem to have to resolve to custom kernel compiling. Reason being that laptops have the most esoteric hardware. It would be either heavily modded up by the OEM manufacturer or else it would just be plain outright bleeding edge technology.

I totally agree with your statement about bloatware. Nowadays it would be impossible to install Mandrake 10 on a Pentium 233 MMX. Once upon a time that was the order of the day. I feel I can still do that with Gentoo due to its nature: a meta distribution.

Back to emerging my new box

Raphael
PS> I tried as much as possible to add a couple of lines on the Wiki site although they seem to have gone un-noticed. I will not be able to attend the meeting due to unforseen circumstances (read _better_ half).

Iain wrote:

[email]# ./flamewar --start

Personally, I find the KDE is bloatware.

Mandrake, Fedora, SUSE (et al) installs more applications than I really
want.

Most kernels on base installs are huge.

Does anyone here still install a system and tune, tune, tune to get the
fastest booting, most responsive system??

I've just moved to Gentoo having spent some time on Debian. We (work, not the Borg) did some test earlier this year on a base install of Gentoo 2004.0
on a dual Xeon. We benchmarked MySQL stats and found it to be 4x quicker
than on a base RH9 box of the same h/w. That was using a genkernel build, we didn't have the time to sit and do a custom kernel this time. I'd tell you the exact performance figures for the MS install, but the developers just
laughed when we asked how it compared...and that was against RH9.

My 'regular' system is an old IBM T23. Works great, with tweaking, and runs quicker each time I strip something out of the kernel. Having moved to 2.6.x recently I'm finding that there's lots of new stuff in here to play with and
the new 2.6 series is really tight.

Anyone else run a custom kernel on older h/w??

Anyone else run a custom kernel on a laptop??

Who runs Gentoo??

Regs.

Iain.

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