keith ill see what i can work on. right now is a bit tough as im bout to start exams on wednesday but ill try my best.
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:05 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send MLUG-list mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MLUG-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: local ubuntu mirror (Keith Vassallo) > 2. local mirror (Jonathan Aquilina) > 3. 10.04 upgrade (Anton Xuereb) > 4. Re: 10.04 upgrade (Rodrick Borg) > 5. Re: 10.04 upgrade (Anton Xuereb) > 6. Re: 10.04 upgrade (Anton Xuereb) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:14:29 +0200 > From: Keith Vassallo <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] local ubuntu mirror > To: Malta Linux User Group - general list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Regarding Rej's three points: > > 1. Yes we have to start with more bw as the other two points would > otherwise be futile. Jonathan, if u have contacts you're more than > welcome to give it a shot. > > 2. John seems up to the job and we can all pitch in to maintain. > > 3. Direction can only be done once we have a fast, updated mirror. > With the current state of the mirror I don't blame canonical for > ignoring our requests. > > K > > On 29 Apr 2010, at 11:57, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti <[email protected] > > wrote: > > > Agreed Keith, > > > > Considering that nobody actively maintains the Ubuntu mirror, we > > don't have the bandwidth anymore since we moved to Marsa (not that > > we had much bandwidth beforehand anyway) and the mt.ubuntu is not > > even pointing to Malta, I feel that the whole effort of mirroring at > > this stage is at its best futile to the end user. To solve the > > situation, I think we should tackle each and every issue: > > > > 1) Obtain bandwidth for the local mirror - this might involve us > > changing ISP > > 2) Find a maintainer for the local Ubuntu mirror > > 3) Direct the mt.ubuntu to our Ubuntu mirror > > > > Now this has been dragging for too long. If we don't get some decent > > bandwidth, I am very inclined to propose scrapping the whole mirror > > project. 10.04 LTS is round the corner, and unless we can have an > > upstream that can handle at least two simultaneous users at an > > average download speed (8Mbit) people will choose foreign mirrors > > over ours. > > > > Ramon, you used to handle the ISP issues with Maltanet at the time. > > Can you try and talk to them directly (maybe you would need me too > > on this) so we get 15Mbit-20Mbit allowed on our connection? I doubt > > that our allocation through Anton will ever give us more than 6Mbit > > I recall. > > > > -- > > Raphael > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Keith Vassallo <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Regarding this point our mirror sponsor is currently GO. I've just > > tried downloading the latest Ubuntu from the local mirror (I'm on > > Melita) and got a speed of 125Kb/s - which means we're getting a > > 1Mbps upload speed. On the other hand when I download from the UK I > > get 1.4MB/s (That's megabytes not megabits). So as you can see our > > mirror is pretty pointless at the moment. > > > > GO's commercial packages for home users as well as businesses offer > > 1Mbps at their most expensive - but that's a retail package not co- > > location. None of the three major ISPs in Malta tell will tell you > > how much bandwidth is available for co-located servers, however to > > get speeds similar to what you can get on a 10Mbps connection from > > the UK via our server we'd need our upload speed to be 10Mbps. > > > > So, when talking to GO, that's how much upload bandwidth we should > > ask for. Not because we're greedy, but because anything else would > > make the server absolutely redundant. > > > > Whether or not we'll actually get this speed is another matter, > > which puts into question the need for the mirror. > > > > K > > > > > > On 29 Apr 2010, at 07:45, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > > > > hey guys i had posted to the email and got a response from an > > individual about the local ubuntu mirror here. i never heard > > anything back from him if its possible to get a faster connection > > for the mirror as the speeds are deplorable, and as a result i dont > > even use the local mirror. would it be possible to get an update as > > to whats happening please. > > > > > > -- > > > Jonathan Aquilina > > > _______________________________________________ > > > MLUG-list mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MLUG-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MLUG-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20100429/49e96f15/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:52:09 +0200 > From: Jonathan Aquilina <[email protected]> > Subject: [LINUX.ORG.MT] local mirror > To: mlug-list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > hey guys i got some info from some ubuntu support people. as well as a few > links. > > http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror/2 <----this links gives you an idea > of the amount of bandwidth we would need as well as other requirements to > make us an official mirror. > > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors <--- lists all mirrors world > wide and their connection speeds that might give you an idea of what we > might need. > > > also on freenode irc if you need to talk to any one further there is > ubuntu-mirrors channel for any questions relating to the mirror. > > hope this might shed some light on bandwidth requirements for us :) > -- > Jonathan Aquilina > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20100429/741d724b/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:03:05 +0200 > From: Anton Xuereb <[email protected]> > Subject: [LINUX.ORG.MT] 10.04 upgrade > To: Malta Linux User Group - general list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey guys, > > Im trying to do a dist-upgrade to teh latest ubuntu version, unfortunately > the automatic updater (update-manager) changes the sources.list file to > point to the central ubuntu mirror which as you can guess atm, is slower > than watching paint dry. > > Is there some way of forcing it to use a different mirror for the upgrade ? > I'd like to be ready at 2am tops. > > M > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20100429/89b77b4d/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:26:53 +0200 > From: Rodrick Borg <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] 10.04 upgrade > To: Malta Linux User Group - general list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I dunno if I understood you problem exactly but to change the download > server: > > go to Systems -> Administration _> Software Sources > > Then change download from to a new mirror... (You can click Other -> Select > Best Server) > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Anton Xuereb <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Hey guys, > > > > Im trying to do a dist-upgrade to teh latest ubuntu version, > unfortunately > > the automatic updater (update-manager) changes the sources.list file to > > point to the central ubuntu mirror which as you can guess atm, is slower > > than watching paint dry. > > > > Is there some way of forcing it to use a different mirror for the upgrade > ? > > I'd like to be ready at 2am tops. > > > > M > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MLUG-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20100429/d94d5af6/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 00:04:14 +0200 > From: Anton Xuereb <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] 10.04 upgrade > To: Malta Linux User Group - general list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > upgrade process changes them again...changing them manually worked > > On 29 April 2010 23:26, Rodrick Borg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I dunno if I understood you problem exactly but to change the download > > server: > > > > go to Systems -> Administration _> Software Sources > > > > Then change download from to a new mirror... (You can click Other -> > Select > > Best Server) > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Anton Xuereb <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Hey guys, > >> > >> Im trying to do a dist-upgrade to teh latest ubuntu version, > unfortunately > >> the automatic updater (update-manager) changes the sources.list file to > >> point to the central ubuntu mirror which as you can guess atm, is slower > >> than watching paint dry. > >> > >> Is there some way of forcing it to use a different mirror for the > upgrade > >> ? I'd like to be ready at 2am tops. > >> > >> M > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MLUG-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20100430/a175f3e8/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 02:13:42 +0200 > From: Anton Xuereb <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] 10.04 upgrade > To: Malta Linux User Group - general list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > ok 10.04 first impressions.. > > i want my 9.10 back! > > now! > > On 30 April 2010 00:04, Anton Xuereb <[email protected]> wrote: > > > upgrade process changes them again...changing them manually worked > > > > > > On 29 April 2010 23:26, Rodrick Borg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I dunno if I understood you problem exactly but to change the download > >> server: > >> > >> go to Systems -> Administration _> Software Sources > >> > >> Then change download from to a new mirror... (You can click Other -> > >> Select Best Server) > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Anton Xuereb <[email protected] > >wrote: > >> > >>> Hey guys, > >>> > >>> Im trying to do a dist-upgrade to teh latest ubuntu version, > >>> unfortunately the automatic updater (update-manager) changes the > >>> sources.list file to point to the central ubuntu mirror which as you > can > >>> guess atm, is slower than watching paint dry. > >>> > >>> Is there some way of forcing it to use a different mirror for the > upgrade > >>> ? I'd like to be ready at 2am tops. > >>> > >>> M > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> MLUG-list mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20100430/9cded896/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > End of MLUG-list Digest, Vol 71, Issue 20 > ***************************************** > -- Jonathan Aquilina
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