It may be difficult to understand that it can be discouraging, daunting, and plain intimidating to approach something like hacking when one has never experienced what it's like to be a minority that, as a rule, is deemed to be incapable of it. But when social norms have historically excluded women from certain realms, it's necessary to be proactive in changing those trends. No one is arguing that a female-only hackfest is the ideal; rather, it is a measure to attempt to correct strong biases that currently exist. When women comprise half of STEM professionals, this argument will hold. Until then, there is work to do.
Sofia On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Gary Baribault <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey,. I have nothing whatsoever against women, and still less in our > chosen profession, like Leslie, I've been doing this for years (37??) and > find that women bring something special to our industry, and I also deplore > that there seems to be less and less of them. My objection was much more > generic than that .. Woman hate when their excluded and raise a stick when > they are, but never hesitate to have women only activities. If we had Men > Only activities, they would scream blue murder, and yet here we are all > happy about being excluded from a women only hackfest... > > Gary B > > > > On 02/05/2013 11:23 AM, Patricia Campbell wrote: > > Interesting and slightly offensive thread (at start), the numbers of women > in ICT have been dropping for years. No one seems to have a concrete > reason. I have seen it this drop as a professional and as a teacher. > If a hackfest for women means that it gets more women involved that is > great, we need men and women in the field. As Brian said " For some > values of `welcome'." it is hard to see from another's perspective... > > Patricia Campbell > ICT professional using Linux & Unix since 1992 > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 13-02-05 09:08 AM, Gary Baribault wrote: >> >>> The difference is that women where welcome at previous hackfests, they >>> just chose not to adhere. >>> >> The real answer here is for you to call a hackfest. Find a meeting place >> and a time and announce it. I will put it up on the website and we can go >> hacking. I have a hundred things that need hacking. >> >> >> Jeremy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mlug mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca >> > > > > -- > ___..___........__.......__ > ...|....|__/....|...|......|...|__| > ...|....|.....\...|...|__..|...|....| > > "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Mohandas K Gandhi > > > _______________________________________________ > mlug mailing > [email protected]https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > mlug mailing list > [email protected] > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > >
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