On Jan 26, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Mohamed Bana wrote:

> Perhaps Sun

Well, it's probably "perhaps Oracle" any time now; we'll see how things shake 
out.

In any case, "Sun" doesn't do such side-projects, so much as they are created 
by individual overworked but entrepreneurial engineers and engineering managers 
working within Sun.  And when "Sun" gets quiet, it's because the one or two 
engineers working on some public project have time-sliced to some other part of 
their job.

As far as more Linz-type collaborations are concerned, you are right, Mohamed.  
I think one or two more would be good.  For example, there are good JVM hackers 
at Rice.  More than that would require someone like me or my manager to work 
full-time on collaboration instead of engineering or managing.

Of the three mlvm successes I cited, two came from Linz, but one (Rémi Forax) 
was a volunteer who didn't require a formal connection with Sun; he just jumped 
in.  (Thanks, Rémi!)  In fact, even the Linz-based projects were based on the 
inspiration of individual students to work on Hotspot for their research 
projects.

I guess both models have their place.  Note that the Linz relationship, which 
is very powerful, took years to build, since it requires faculty investment in 
learning Hotspot and teaching it to students.  The mlvm project can be viewed 
as a complement to such high-momentum relationships, since it is public and 
allows anyone access to the code and a suggested project list, and start 
experimenting right away.  (The learning curve is steep, of course.  Our wiki 
is supposed to help with that.)  So if you are into JVM futures, mlvm is a good 
place to volunteer.

-- John
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