Supermemo ver 7 1995 certainly decreases E-factor also for fail grade 
(Score 0, 1, 2 and 3) 
To me this seems senisble. 
I made a test-base in Supermemo 7 and manipulated the PC clock.The below 
table shows the development of E-factor in SM7 (1995). 
(Repetition after 1 month (M1), 2 months etc.) 

Self Rating (q) = 0: M1: 2.075 M2: 1.650 M3: 1.300 M4: 1.300 M5: 1.300 M6: 
1.300
Self Rating (q) = 1: M1: 2.075 M2: 1.650 M3: 1.300 M4: 1.300 M5: 1.300 M6: 
1.300
Self Rating (q) = 2: M1: 2.180 M2: 1.860 M3: 1.540 M4: 1.300 M5: 1.300 M6: 
1.300
Self Rating (q) = 3: M1: 2.360 M2: 2.360 M3: 2.360 M4: 2.220 M5: 2.220 M6: 
2.220
Self Rating (q) = 4: M1: 2.500 M2: 2.500 M3: 2.500 M4: 2.500 M5: 2.500 M6: 
2.500
Self Rating (q) = 5: M1: 2.600 M2: 2.600 M3: 2.600 M4: 2.600 M5: 2.600 M6: 
2.700

As you can see, the lower the Self Rating the lower the E-factor, also for 
fail grade (Score 0, 1, 2 and 3 in SM)  

If during a repetition session in SM items are scored 3 or lower, these 
cards are saved for what is called "final drill". During "final drill" the 
scoring is "binary": Pass = 4 (or higher). Fail = 3 (or lower). I quite 
like the "final drill"-concept and would like to see it also in Mnemosyne: 
the possibility of really drilling the items that you by that repetition 
haven't yet learned well. 

 


On Monday, 6 August 2012 08:30:57 UTC+2, Peter Bienstman wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 05, 2012 10:55:46 AM Henrik in Oslo wrote: 
>
> > It says: 
> > «EF':=EF+{0.1-(5-q)*[0.08+(5-q)*0.02]} 
>
> That formula is only valid for pass grades, not fail grades. From the SM 
> website: 
>
> 6. If the quality response was lower than 3 then start repetitions for the 
> item from the beginning without changing the E-Factor (i.e. use intervals 
> I(1), I(2) etc. as if the item was memorized anew). 
>
> But I agree that it's confusingly written. 
>
> > *2) Under what circumstance does the E-factor decrease?* 
>
> For grades 2 and 3. 
>
> > *B Terminology:* 
> > 1) Is "Repetitions" (in Stat) same ac  "Review reps" (in Browse Cards)? 
>
> Because of lack of space, I abbreviated repetitions as reps. In Stats, 
> reps 
> currently is learning reps + review reps, but I agree it's inconsistent 
> with 
> the browser, so I've split this up by listing learning reps and review 
> reps 
> separately in the statistics page too. 
>
> > 2) In Card Statistics I find "Scheduled interval". What is the 
> equivalent 
> > in Browse Cards? 
>
> Scheduled interval is next rep - last rep. This indeed probably does not 
> add 
> too much, so I've removed this from the statistics page. 
>
> Thanks for spotting this! 
>
> Peter 
>
> > 
> > Best regards 
> > Henrik 
> > 
> > On Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:02:23 UTC+2, Peter Bienstman wrote: 
> > > Quoting "Henrik in Oslo" <[email protected]>: 
> > > > I have for 3-4 weeks not included a couple of tags in my daily 
> learning. 
> > > 
> > > I 
> > > 
> > > > checked the effect of different gradings on some cards and was very 
> > > > surprised that "Easiness" remains practically unchanged whatever 
> grade I 
> > > > give to these cards. 
> > > 
> > > Well, with grade 5 you do see an increase of easiness of 0.10 :-) For 
> > > failing grades, the easiness is indeed not changed. 
> > > 
> > > All of this is exactly as prescribed by the original SM2 algorithm. 
> > > 
> > > >  A minor 
> > > > 
> > > > comment: The terminology is not altogether the same between "Show 
> > > > statistics" (Ctrl T) and "Browse Cards" 
> > > 
> > > Could you please elaborate? 
> > > 
> > > Thanks! 
> > > 
> > > Peter 
> -- 
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> Ghent University, Dept. of Information Technology 
> Sint-Pietersnieuwstraat 41, B-9000 Gent, Belgium 
> tel: +32 9 264 34 46, fax: +32 9 264 35 93 
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