If you deem it worthy, I'd be honored to have it memorialized =)



On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Peter Bienstman
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Michael, great post! I agree completely.
>
> I'll see if I find a good place to place this on our website (with credit
> to you of course).
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 11/20/2012 03:01 PM, Michael Campbell wrote:
>
>> If you don't want to deal with the grading continuum, don't.  Grade
>> everything a 0 or 1 (if you don't know it) and a 4 if you do.   Nothing
>> bad will happen; you still get things you know less often and things you
>> forget more often.  That's basically Leitner anyway.
>>
>> This isn't directed at you specifically, but your post made me think of
>> it.  Having used mnemo a few years now and watching this mailing list
>> pretty closely I've seen an idea surface over and over again; and that
>> is what happens if I do something outside the "perfect" parameters; the
>> 2 biggest being "what if I miss days?", "oh my, I've graded a card
>> wrong; what do I do?"   The answer is, "nothing".  It's no big deal.
>>   Let it go.  If you graded it too HIGH, you may forget it next time,
>> which will be taken care of by your 0 or 1 grade when you next see it.
>>   If you grade it too low, you'll see it earlier than you would have
>> otherwise, and what's the big deal?    And for missed days, just do what
>> you can when you can.  It can be shown that assuming you remember at
>> least some of the time from day to day, you can do 1 card a day and
>> *eventually* get through an arbitrarily large stack.
>>
>> Ones memory is such a fluid dynamic thing that trying to curve-fit SM2
>> (or any algorithm) to it just isn't possible, or beneficial.  Your
>> memory may kick ass today, and absolute shite tomorrow; no algorithm can
>> hope to model that.  And each person is different too.  I think these
>> fine-tuning exercises I see people attempting, while perhaps fun, are of
>> little to no actual benefit.  The benefit comes from doing, not
>> tweaking.  I'm sure Peter or Gwern have some studies at hand that might
>> have more information.
>>
>> So, make a best effort on grading, and try to do it daily or at least as
>> often as you can, and it'll work fine.  This isn't an optimization
>> exercise, it's just meant to reduce work that may not be necessary.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:40 AM, <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]**>> wrote:
>>
>>     Thanks for all the replies. I will do some more testing to see if I
>>     like the SM2 stuff. In my head I really think I would much prefer
>>     the leitner. Probably mainly due to there having less ambiguity.
>>     (You either know it or you don't) It becomes much too emotionally
>>     taxing, (for some individuals) to properly categories it as a
>>     1,2,3,4, or 5 card. But that is what SM2 is so I might as well give
>>     it a shot.  ^_^
>>
>>     Also thanks for that little trick on getting tomorrow's cards done.
>>     A bit tedious but it does the job.
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