The old apps have been in the wild for ages but they had no editing ability. The new apps have editing but aren't in the wild yet - they are only being alpha tested by about 100 users at best at the moment. Wider availability this coming month. Since this is the first time apps will have editing I wanted to get both CU and UA for analytics right. On Mar 28, 2014 12:16 PM, "ENWP Pine" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks James. > > No UA data is recorded from any platform for non-edit actions like > pageviews and watchlisting, even if an editor is logged in, right? > > Pine > > > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:36:01 -0700 > Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Mobile and CheckUser (Was [mobile-l] > Wikipedia App User Agents) > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected]; [email protected] > > The mobile apps are definitely in the wild, my understanding (from some > checks in the past and from the discussion in the other thread) was that it > was just the 'normal' useragent for the phone with the addition of a > WikipediaMobile identifier at the front (so that you could tell it was from > the app). They aren't very common but I have seen some which I knew were > app driven. > > The reason this came up was that one of the discussions that came up in > that other thread was to rewrite the user agent to be less unique which > would make it harder for CUs to tell users apart (especially once they > found out, which they often do and these discussions are on public lists). > The compromise that Yuvi proposed was to send a 'special' user agent for > checkuser so that it didn't lose the fingerprinting ability as much. > > James > > James Alexander > Legal and Community Advocacy > Wikimedia Foundation > (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > I got the impression from this discussion that the mobile apps aren't > currently in use so the CUs have had no experience working with them. It > sounds like I was mistaken. > > Toby, what UA data do CUs currently see from edits made through the mobile > apps? > > CUs, is the information that you're currently getting from edits from the > new mobile apps a good balance the concerns raised previously in this > discussion? > > Pine > > > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:36:16 -0700 > > From: Toby Negrin <[email protected]> > > To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who > > has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." > > <[email protected]> > > Cc: mobile-l <[email protected]>, Oliver Keyes > > <[email protected]>, Yuvi Panda <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Analytics] [WikimediaMobile] Mobile and CheckUser (Was > > [mobile-l] Wikipedia App User Agents) > > Message-ID: > > <caajh0eyqpfdke3p6q5fxecone5yc7uss_vs9hcb5khoxz6-...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > Hey folks -- we aren't considering changing any of the data that goes > into > > checkuser. That tool will be unchanged. > > > > This discussion only concerns backend logging EventLogging and page view > > analytics. > > > > thanks, > > > > -Toby > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > >
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