There is another important difference. Rollback is 'aggressive'. It can only leave 1 editsummary:
"Reverted edits by User A (talk) to last version by User B" Undo however leaves you a bit more flexibility. The default editmessage can be replace and should be for any case where any AGF can potentially can come into play. DJ On 5 apr. 2014, at 03:36, Kenan Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > Maryana, > > Undo and revert are specific actions. Undo does do the thing that i > described, but it is more of a power user feature and what I'm hearing is > that in practice undo is typically just used for the most recent edit which > basically makes it the same as rollback except that rollback isn't offered to > everyone and rollback is a one step process. > > The difference between an edit and a revision is that the edit is actual > atomic change, while the revision is the version of the document at the time > of that change. I think on desktop we've been conditioned to think about them > the same because we can display so much data, but on mobile displaying both > edits and revisions together is quite challenging. > > But the point is well taken that the most important use case is: The most > recent change from the watchlist with a quick revert/rollback/undo > functionality. We don't need to worry too much about reverting to versions > from a long time ago, or complicated undo procedures for specific edits in > the middle of a stream of edits. > > Design: Maybe that means that in Watchlist we highlight the most recent > changes somehow (maybe grouped by user) and then make rollback/undo only > available for those changes for now. Same thing on article history page. This > seams like a reasonable MVP. > > Kenan > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:18 PM, James Alexander <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Maryana Pinchuk <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > 2) Rollback - this is when you take all of the edits of the last user and > > revert to the revision before those edits. The purpose of this is when there > > is a user that has been committing vandalism you can quickly rollback those > > edits. This is a one step process because it just does the revert and saves > > automatically. > > > > note 1: generally speaking vandalism gets caught quickly and is often the > > most recent or most recent set of edie by a single user i.e. the situation > > that rollback is designed for > > Well, not really. Rollback is designed for the rarer use-case of the > persistent vandal who makes a bunch of bad edits to a page. But most > edits that are reverted are first-time test edits/light vandalism of > the clueless newbie variety, which is usually just the one most recent > edit. > > > To be fair rollback is actually much more common then that. While it shines > the most in the multi edit scenario it's most often used in the single edit > variety as well and is actually required for normal huggle usage. This is > because it's all one action and is significantly faster then a manual 'click > undo' (which requires you to go through extra steps). When I was heavily > involved in anti vandal/abuse fighting rollback was 'the' revert compared to > the manual undo which people did for a while to get trusted enough to use > gain the rollback right. (there are a couple reasons you needed to be trusted > but one of the biggest ones is exactly because you can do reverts so quickly > without an extra confirmation page). > > James > > > > James Alexander > Legal and Community Advocacy > Wikimedia Foundation > (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur > > > > > > -- > > Kenan Wang > Product Manager, Mobile > Wikimedia Foundation > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
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