Thanks for digging into this, Adam. I don't think the prominence of the feature is justified by the usage stats, so I'd be in favor of removing it from Opera/lower JS devices.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> wrote: > Good question, will take a look once I'm at a place with stats cluster > access. > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> How does this compare to usage of users on say Chrome...? >> On 9 Jun 2014 18:02, "Adam Baso" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Juliusz suggested I email out details to mobile-l on the following. >>> >>> The question arose during an Opera discussion today whether hiding the >>> Watchlist icon (which is the case on non-HTTPS supporting UX on Wikipedia >>> Zero) on mobile web in the page menubar (not the same as the flyout >>> "hamburger" menu) might make sense generally for <noscript> or lower JS >>> devices? The Watchlist star on the page menubar takes up a lot of space, >>> and as it's the only thing there at the moment (on en.m at least, icons >>> like Edit and Add Photo aren't shown), hiding that menubar icon would free >>> up some valuable screen real estate. >>> >>> On <noscript> or lower JS devices (or browsers where RL suppresses JS >>> due typically to challenges around timing of Deferreds and the like), using >>> the Opera traffic as an example of such a browser, it seems like Watchlist >>> usage is sort of low (this is at 1% sampling resolution). >>> >>> $ zcat /a/squid/archive/mobile/mobile-sampled-100.tsv.log-20140409.gz | >>> grep 'proxy=Opera' | grep 'action=watch' | wc -l >>> 3 >>> >>> In other words, it seems users make it to the point of using the >>> feature, but only about 300 times per day total. Meanwhile, the Watchlist >>> start takes up valuable screen real estate for every pageview. >>> >>> The usage of the feature is about 1/10 of the Opera usage involving >>> submission of the login form (a prerequisite of watchlist usage). >>> >>> $ zcat /a/squid/archive/mobile/mobile-sampled-100.tsv.log-20140409.gz | >>> grep 'proxy=Opera' | grep -i 'Special:UserLogin' | grep 'POST' | wc -l >>> 31 >>> >>> Which is about 1/10 of Opera usage of the login feature in any capacity >>> (GETting the form or POSTing the form) >>> >>> $ zcat /a/squid/archive/mobile/mobile-sampled-100.tsv.log-20140409.gz | >>> grep 'proxy=Opera' | grep -i 'Special:UserLogin' | wc -l >>> 331 >>> >>> Which is maybe 1/270 of an oversimplified "pageview" metric on Opera >>> Mini, using text/html response types as a rough guide. >>> >>> $ zcat /a/squid/archive/mobile/mobile-sampled-100.tsv.log-20140409.gz | >>> grep 'proxy=Opera' | grep 'text/html' | wc -l >>> 89403 >>> >>> The relatively low usage of the Watchlist feature is probably >>> symptomatic of the multiscreen flow on such devices. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > -- Maryana Pinchuk Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
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