If you run jsbeautify with space_in_paren: false, does that mean that it
removes spaces or that it ignores whether or not there are spaces? If the
later, I would vote that we do that.

Kaldari

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think we can conclude if jscs doesn't complain then it is not an
> established coding convention and we should leave that up to the
> implementer.
>
> Going forward I would suggest in code review we do not nit pick on the
> things that jscs does not complain about, so if Joaquin wants to run
> jsbeautify on his pre-commit hook on new patches and it creates code
> that makes jscs happy he should be allowed to. If there is something
> that you believe should be a coding convention enabling it in jscs
> config if the rule exists or write a new rule for jscs.
>
> If we codify more conventions in jscs then tools like jsbeautify will
> have to be adapted to respect that.
>
> All in favour?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Personally, I like hideOverlay( this.stack[0].overlay );
> >
> > Having spaces inside parentheses makes sense since parameters are usually
> > words or word-like and it's easier to read words when they have spaces
> > around them. Keys inside brackets are often just numbers, which I don't
> > think really benefit from having spaces. That said, I realize this is
> > inconsistent and I would be OK with using spaces for both. Not using
> spaces
> > at all makes it harder to scan code for particular variables, etc, IMO.
> >
> > Kaldari
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jon Robson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> + mobile-l
> >>
> >> This is all useful feedback.
> >> That would be ideal if jscs had this capability but an interim
> >> solution would be good in the meantime.
> >>
> >> I think it's important to codify our coding conventions across the
> >> project. It will make it much easier for newbies to write code without
> >> having to worry about coding style.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Krinkle <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> > Hi Jon,
> >> >
> >> > Just wanted to quickly share my ideas on code formatting.
> >> >
> >> > First off, as long as there are no side effects (e.g. normalising too
> >> > much),
> >> > any tool will do in the mean-while and it's trivial to switch later on
> >> > (e.g.
> >> > just change which tasks the "grunt fixup" alias will run). They
> wouldn't
> >> > be
> >> > run as part of "grunt test". Instead it's a convenience tool for
> >> > developers
> >> > to easily reformat code locally before submission (e.g. after jscs
> >> > pointed
> >> > out one or more errors in their local grunt run). This is among the
> >> > reasons
> >> > why using a local Grunt is so convenient. It enables individual
> projects
> >> > to
> >> > try out new tools without requiring server-side configuration. I try
> out
> >> > new
> >> > tasks all the time in oojs-core and VisualEditor. Some stick, some
> >> > don't.
> >> >
> >> > Having said that, I've used js-beautifier in the past and worry it
> won't
> >> > work well for us.
> >> >
> >> > esformatter[1] on the other hand seems to have a more stable
> >> > implementation
> >> > and general approach.
> >> >
> >> > However, any tool other than jscs will come with the down side of
> having
> >> > to
> >> > declare your style guide, again. Which will amount to tedious
> >> > duplication
> >> > and loads of edge cases where the tools declare the style using
> >> > different
> >> > logical rules and will never match.
> >> >
> >> > jscs ships with a wikimedia preset that saves lots of configuration in
> >> > the
> >> > first place.
> >> >
> >> > And fortunately, jscs actually plans to ship an "autofixer" utility
> that
> >> > will correct violations from within jscs itself. Using the solid
> parser
> >> > and
> >> > tokeniser that jscs is known for. Thus, even the small jscs rule
> config
> >> > we
> >> > do have, won't have to be duplicated.
> >> >
> >> > The jQuery Team also supports this effort for their various javascript
> >> > projects (both as style checker, as we do already, and as code
> >> > formatter).
> >> > So that's a major player we'll have on our side when it comes to
> >> > continued
> >> > support for the tool.
> >> >
> >> > https://github.com/jscs-dev/node-jscs/issues/516
> >> >
> >> > Supported by Mike Sherov (mikesherov) and Oleg Gaidarenko (markelog),
> >> > from
> >> > the jQuery Team (who are also jscs collaborators). And Marat Dulin
> >> > (mdevils), founder of jscs.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> >
> >> > — Krinkle
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://github.com/millermedeiros/esformatter
> >> >
> >> > On 20 Nov 2014, at 23:57, Derk-Jan Hartman <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Begin forwarded message:
> >> >
> >> > Date: 20 november 2014 21:19:24 CET
> >> > From: Jon Robson <[email protected]>
> >> > To: Bahodir Mansurov <[email protected]>
> >> > Cc: mobile-l <[email protected]>
> >> > Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Using jsbeautify in MobileFrontend
> >> >
> >> > Follow up
> >> > If I run `make jsbeautify` now
> >> > then https://gist.github.com/jdlrobson/a05ddad00175ebceac68 is the
> >> > result.
> >> >
> >> > Outstanding actions:
> >> > * Need input on rest of the team about which of delete
> >> > this.cache[title]; or delete this.cache[ title ]; is the preferred
> >> > standard.
> >> > * You'll notice jsbeautify and inlne comments need to be ironed out.
> >> > For example:
> >> >
> >> >
> https://gist.github.com/jdlrobson/a05ddad00175ebceac68#file-gistfile1-diff-L257
> >> >
> >> > Apart from the above 2 jsbeautify makes some adjustments to our
> >> > whitspace which I guess we'll just have to live with.
> >> >
> >> > Please can everyone else let me know how they think we should proceed?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Bahodir Mansurov
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As for # Rule 4, it makes sense to add spaces inside square brackets.
> >> > The
> >> > reasoning is the same as why we add spaces inside parenthesis.
> >> >
> >> > On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I explored running jsbeautify [1] on the MobileFrontend codebase and
> >> > looked at how the output differs from the current styling. It
> >> > introduces various rules that MobileFrontend is currently not adhering
> >> > too. MobileFrontend already uses jscs [2] so we want to make sure the
> >> > outputs of both are compatible. Here is my report on that with the
> >> > recommendation that we should use it.
> >> >
> >> > #Rule 1: object properties defined on a single line.
> >> > e.g.
> >> > {
> >> > foo: 2,
> >> > bar: 3
> >> > }
> >> > NOT { foo: 2, bar: 3 }
> >> >
> >> > I think this would be a good idea to adopt. I will explore if jscs can
> >> > enforce this.
> >> >
> >> > # Rule 2: variables that are initialised must be followed by a new
> >> > line (although I noted a few odd cases e.g. in Page.js after a "?:"
> >> > expression and /MobileWebClickTracking.js
> >> > e.g.
> >> > var Foo, bar = $( 'div' ),
> >> > Baz,
> >> > Bar;
> >> >
> >> > not:
> >> > var Foo, bar = $( 'div' ), Baz, Bar;
> >> >
> >> > This will be fixed if I implement https://trello.com/c/0dkx0ldL
> >> >
> >> > # Rule 3: All chained events should be indented
> >> > e.g.
> >> > foo()
> >> > .bar();
> >> >
> >> > not
> >> > foo().
> >> > bar();
> >> >
> >> > Seems like a no brainer. One that happens naturally most of the time.
> >> >
> >> > # Rule 4: Spacing in object parameters
> >> > e.g.
> >> > foo[ 1 ]
> >> > [ 1, 2, 3, 4 ]
> >> >
> >> > not:
> >> > foo[1]
> >> > [1, 2, 3, 4]
> >> >
> >> > This is different to MediaWiki coding conventions but I can implement
> >> > https://github.com/beautify-web/js-beautify/issues/424 to give us
> >> > this.
> >> > We seem a bit inconsistent ourselves with this convention - let me
> >> > know how you think this rule should work in our codebase...
> >> >
> >> > # Rule 5: New line after variable declarations
> >> >
> >> > var x, y, z;
> >> >
> >> > z();
> >> >
> >> > not:
> >> > var x, y, z;
> >> > z();
> >> >
> >> > Also:
> >> > function foo() {}
> >> >
> >> > function bar() {}
> >> >
> >> > not:
> >> > function foo() {}
> >> > function bar() {}
> >> >
> >> > Seems like a no brainer and shouldn't introduce any major issues with
> >> > code review.
> >> >
> >> > # Rule 6: Comments must respect the current indentation level
> >> >
> >> > if () {
> >> > ...
> >> > // If i is 5 we do something special
> >> > } else if ( i === 5 ){
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> > becomes
> >> > if () {
> >> > ...
> >> > // If i is 5 we do something special
> >> > } else if ( i === 5 ){
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> > We'll have to think about what to do with these comments but I don't
> >> > think this should be a blocker to using jsbeautify. It will only pop
> >> > up occasionally.
> >> >
> >> > # Rule 7: On long if statements the curly brace must be indented.
> >> > And the first condition should be on the same line
> >> >
> >> > if ( enableToc || ...
> >> > ....
> >> > && baz ) {
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > not:
> >> > if (
> >> > enableToc || ...
> >> > ....
> >> > && baz ) {
> >> >
> >> > Again I'm not sure if this will happen too often. This to me is a sign
> >> > that we should be using functions rather than long if statements
> >> > personally. Again not a blocker.
> >> >
> >> > Actions:
> >> > * Implement https://github.com/beautify-web/js-beautify/issues/424
> >> > * You guys need to advise me on how we should handle square brackets
> >> > in our codebase in such a way we respect MediaWiki coding conventions
> >> > and come up with a consistent style we are happy with and can adhere
> >> > to.
> >> > * I'll implement https://trello.com/c/0dkx0ldL in some form
> >> > * I'll explore if jscs can support objects defined on new line
> >> > * When the above are done I recommend we turn on jsbeautify for the
> >> > project.
> >> >
> >> > I've setup a tracking card for the above work:
> >> > https://trello.com/c/5btWf2JN/90-snakes-on-a-plane
> >> > and will be looking at these problems today.
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://github.com/beautify-web/js-beautify
> >> > [2] https://github.com/jscs-dev/node-jscs
> >> >
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