Hi Dan,

Yes, thank you. I trust you to adjust accordingly if the project finishes
early or encounters surprise roadblocks. At some point I would be
interested in seeing the task breakdown (are those on Phabricator
somewhere?).

By the way, lest this email chain come across as micromanagement of Mobile
Apps, I do appreciate that you and your team have a good track record of
producing software that people like, and I really appreciate your
transparency via the email updates that you write frequently. What was
giving me sticker shock was the cost of producing this particular
functionality, hence my questions.

Have a nice weekend,

Pine

On Mar 13, 2015 6:14 PM, "Dan Garry" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 13 March 2015 at 16:46, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Let me try asking about this from a different angle. What was the
>> methodology used to come to the conclusion that this project would require
>> the kinds and numbers of investments that you mentioned?
>>
> I mapped out the required work, broke it down into sub tasks, and then
> based on my experience of how long similar things have taken in the past,
> estimated the required number of people that would be required to do so. I
> also am always *extremely* reluctant to assign any fewer than two
> engineers to a project; code review is incredibly important and without
> making sure that it is accounted for in resourcing requests, projects can
> go and do go absolutely nowhere.
>
> Bear in mind there is an element of "undercommit and overdeliver" in my
> proposal; I expect that we would also be able to achieve something else in
> the allocated time, but I'd rather make a commitment to something I'm
> really sure we can achieve, than make a commitment to something we might be
> able to achieve then not achieve it. I should note that "undercommit and
> overdeliver" is a strategy endorsed by Lila!
>
> I should also note that I have since adjusted
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia_Engineering/2014-15_Goals/Q4&diff=1440825&oldid=1440079>
>  the
> magnitude of my ask; 1 FTE UX designer (down from 1.5) and 0.5 FTE QA
> tester (down from 1).
>
> I'm not sure how else to answer this question without literally brain
> dumping everything I wrote down into an email. Did I adequately answer you?
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Garry
> Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
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