My only $0.02 is that pushing bots to another channel generally ends up being functionally the same as muting the bots entirely unless people setup watches on particular words to see pings from them.
I do things in my client to make bots less obtrusive, but I totally understand that doing so is (a) a power user hobby and (b) not possible for all clients. Bryan On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> wrote: > I would favor having the bots on a separate channel as well. > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Brian Gerstle <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> I think the point is that it's unrealistic to expect people to handle this >> on the "client side" and they should "opt in" for those >> notifications/messages by joining that channel (i.e. separating events on >> the server side, so it applies to all clients). >> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Bahodir Mansurov >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I use LimeChat, but haven’t tried hard enough to filter out bots. I don’t >>> mind creating a new channel and directing bots there. XChat advanced >>> settings related to “Text Events”, which maybe what you want. Not sure about >>> the backlog support though. >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Bryan that's exactly what I'd like. Direct the bots to other channels and >>> join those if you want the notifications. I personally will because I find >>> them very useful. >>> >>> Baha the reality is not that easy. I want backlog so I've moved to the >>> irccloud chat, and there I can only ignore users. The problem is that I find >>> wikibugs and grrrit-wm very useful and I don't want to hide them, I want to >>> separate them to another channel. This way for activity and notifications >>> I'll join the notifications channel, and in the main channel I'll be able to >>> read and have conversations with people without tons of noise. >>> Would you mind having another channel open with the notifications? We >>> should expect all team members to autojoin that channel when working too. >>> >>> Jon, Ori told me that limechat can hide messages based on regexes. I >>> poked around it and searched google but found nothing useful and he didn't >>> reply on irc so I'm not sure which dark secrets he holds :P >>> >>> What client are you using baha? >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I personally detest them now I am working with mostly a remote team. >>>> They are useful occasionally but not missing messages from team >>>> members is far too important for me. >>>> >>>> I've not found a good way to filter these out (look at the pink lines >>>> that mean pings in my irc client - http://imgur.com/MsYk9OO) >>>> >>>> I've also noticed an increase in private conversations recently to >>>> compensate for this which sucks for openness. >>>> >>>> A compromise to reduce noise might be: >>>> * don't include name of author in patch submits/phabricator tasks >>>> reported by the bot (so that author doesn't get pings that mask other >>>> pings from other users) - but someone would have to implement this. >>>> >>>> I think moving to a new channel seems like an easy solution. Nothing >>>> gets missed provided people know to join it and nothing needs to be >>>> implemented. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Bahodir Mansurov >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > I think they should stay and everyone should be able to configure >>>> > their >>>> > client to hide specific message from showing. >>>> > >>>> > On Apr 30, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Brian Gerstle <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Totally agree, having *important messages only* in IRC would be nice. >>>> > Another idea would be to have notifs go to more specific chat rooms >>>> > based on >>>> > the project. >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Corey Floyd <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> I think this is a good idea… the only thing I think should be in the >>>> >> main >>>> >> channel is something like breaking the build (at least for the apps >>>> >> guys) >>>> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez >>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Hi! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I've been feeling that the signal to noise ratio on >>>> >>> #wikimedia-mobile >>>> >>> since the addition of wikibugs and our new apps engineers (more >>>> >>> grrrit-wm >>>> >>> spam) is turning to be 0 (that is, no signal because of too much >>>> >>> noise). >>>> >>> >>>> >>> It is really difficult to talk about anything when somebody else is >>>> >>> working (and that is what we do, so...). >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I would like to propose moving the machines to a different channel, >>>> >>> maybe >>>> >>> a couple of them ( #wikimedia-mobile-web-bots & >>>> >>> #wikimedia-mobile-apps-bots >>>> >>> for example ) so that they continue to be useful but in a different >>>> >>> channel, >>>> >>> and so that we can read again the chats with just the conversations. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> What do you think? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Cheers. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>> >>> [email protected] >>>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Corey Floyd >>>> >> Software Engineer >>>> >> Mobile Apps / iOS >>>> >> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Mobile-l mailing list >>>> >> [email protected] >>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > EN Wikipedia user page: >>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian.gerstle >>>> > IRC: bgerstle >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Mobile-l mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Mobile-l mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jon Robson >>>> * http://jonrobson.me.uk >>>> * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson >>>> * @rakugojon >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> EN Wikipedia user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian.gerstle >> IRC: bgerstle >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > -- Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation <[email protected]> [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software Engineer Boise, ID USA irc: bd808 v:415.839.6885 x6855 _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
