I'm definitely interested. I'll add some engineering tasks to the iOS
backlog t optimize siteinfo queries as a starting point.  If we're going to
make some additional patches to mobileview, adding an extracts snippet and
adding cache headers seem like great improvements.


On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> wrote:

> There are others interested in caching, too, and as third parties look to
> integrate api.php calls, it is important there as well. You're in good
> company!
>
> Anyone in Reading web engineering or infrastructure know how easy/hard it
> would be to have the caching related headers for action=mobileview mimic
> MFE HTML as well as whether that would be advisable? If we can shave, say,
> 100ms on respones and lower utilization at the Apaches, seems like a good
> investment while the mobile app content service is stood up and polished.
>
> Brian, from what I heard you say yesterday, the sitematrix and siteinfo
> stuff shouldn't be too risky. Interested in tackling the PHP? Need a
> pairing partner?
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Brian Gerstle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Also, I'm the guy complaining about cache control :-).
>>
>> The other related conversation is the future of mobileview itself, and
>> if/when/how the apps will interact w/ MW-core vs. RESTBase micro services.
>> Just something to keep in mind that might affect how much (if any) effort
>> we put into working on mobileview as opposed to investing in
>> RESTBase-powered services, which (IIUC) already have some caching
>> mechanisms to hook into.
>>
>> That said, some MW API's which are not page related could benefit from
>> cache-control, like sitematrix & siteinfo
>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41061>.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Brian Gerstle <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Side note, do we need a lot of these headers?
>>>
>>> X-Powered-By: HHVM/3.6.1
>>>
>>> X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
>>>
>>> X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
>>>> X-Varnish: 2583358918, 1834266080
>>>> Via: 1.1 varnish, 1.1 varnish
>>>> X-Cache: cp1047 miss (0), cp1060 frontend miss (0)
>>>> X-Analytics: https=1
>>>> Set-Cookie: WMF-Last-Access=03-Jun-2015;Path=/;HttpOnly;Expires=Sun,
>>>> 05 Jul 2015 12:00:00 GMT
>>>
>>>
>>> Could save a few bytes down the wire if we nixed the unused ones.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi team -
>>>>
>>>> There was a question yesterday if we had caching headers in the APIs
>>>> consumed by the apps.
>>>>
>>>> I did a quick cURL on a couple URLs for Android and iOS and it seems
>>>> like maybe requests are served cold from the Varnish cache (as with many
>>>> API responses), even if there may be some memcached/Redis hot storage at
>>>> the web server for the underlying content.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if there's a safe approach to implement caching
>>>> headers (e.g., Cache-Control, Expires, ETag, etc.) to optimize for hot
>>>> cache hits for the API endpoints used by the apps and experimental webapps?
>>>> In particular, would we benefit from doing so on action=mobileview? Is
>>>> there a way to canonicalize the request parameters to increase the odds of
>>>> a cache hit regardless of whether iOS or Android made the first hit (either
>>>> client-side or perhaps at the edge with scare VCL)? What about for other
>>>> API endpoints?
>>>>
>>>> -Adam
>>>>
>>>> $ curl -s -D - "
>>>> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&page=Fish&prop=text%7Csections%7Cthumb%7Cimage%7Cid%7Crevision%7Cdescription%7Clastmodified%7Cnormalizedtitle%7Cdisplaytitle%7Cprotection%7Ceditable&onlyrequestedsections=1&sections=0&sectionprop=toclevel%7Cline%7Canchor&noheadings=true&thumbsize=640";
>>>> -o /dev/null | grep -v GeoIP
>>>>
>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>>
>>>> Server: Apache
>>>>
>>>> X-Powered-By: HHVM/3.6.1
>>>>
>>>> X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
>>>>
>>>> X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
>>>>
>>>> Vary: Accept-Encoding,X-Forwarded-Proto,Cookie
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8
>>>>
>>>> X-Varnish: 2886917462, 1761146385
>>>>
>>>> Via: 1.1 varnish, 1.1 varnish
>>>>
>>>> Transfer-Encoding: chunked
>>>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:20:08 GMT
>>>>
>>>> Age: 0
>>>>
>>>> Connection: keep-alive
>>>>
>>>> X-Cache: cp1046 miss (0), cp1046 frontend miss (0)
>>>>
>>>> Set-Cookie: WMF-Last-Access=03-Jun-2015;Path=/;HttpOnly;Expires=Sun, 05
>>>> Jul 2015 12:00:00 GMT
>>>>
>>>> Cache-Control: private, s-maxage=0, max-age=0, must-revalidate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $  curl -s -D - "
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&noheadings=true&page=SM%20U-66&prop=sections%7Ctext%7Clastmodified%7Clastmodifiedby%7Clanguagecount%7Cid%7Cprotection%7Ceditable%7Cdisplaytitle%7Cthumb%7Cdescription%7Cimage&sectionprop=toclevel%7Cline%7Canchor%7Clevel%7Cnumber%7Cfromtitle%7Cindex&sections=all&thumbwidth=640";
>>>> -o /dev/null | grep -v GeoIP
>>>>
>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>>
>>>> Server: nginx/1.6.2
>>>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:22:23 GMT
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8
>>>>
>>>> Transfer-Encoding: chunked
>>>>
>>>> Connection: keep-alive
>>>>
>>>> X-Powered-By: HHVM/3.6.1
>>>>
>>>> X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
>>>>
>>>> X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
>>>>
>>>> Vary: Accept-Encoding,X-Forwarded-Proto,Cookie
>>>>
>>>> X-Varnish: 2583358918, 1834266080
>>>>
>>>> Via: 1.1 varnish, 1.1 varnish
>>>>
>>>> Age: 0
>>>>
>>>> X-Cache: cp1047 miss (0), cp1060 frontend miss (0)
>>>>
>>>> X-Analytics: https=1
>>>>
>>>> Set-Cookie: WMF-Last-Access=03-Jun-2015;Path=/;HttpOnly;Expires=Sun, 05
>>>> Jul 2015 12:00:00 GMT
>>>>
>>>> Cache-Control: private, s-maxage=0, max-age=0, must-revalidate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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