Aaron did some work on hash-based thumb naming that was recently merged:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1210

A switch to hash-based thumb urls could be an opportunity to define a
predictable size / quality selection API, at least for large installations
like ours.

Gabriel

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Brian Gerstle <[email protected]>
wrote:

> the whole media cache infrastructure is held together with duct tape and
>> no one is particularly enthusiastic to poke at it.
>
>
> That's what I found out when I asked around on IRC about this very thing.
> Could we get sufficient, inter-vertical commitment to do this properly if
> there were, say, a cross-platform epic about it next quarter?  Just a
> thought...
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Gergo Tisza <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Brian Gerstle <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess the "thumb/6/6e" part isn't standard either.
>>>
>>
>> It's always there as far as I know, but it's not standard in the sense
>> that there is no promise of stability. Someone might at some point decide
>> we should use a faster hash function or we have too many images and need
>> three levels of depth or something else altogether... File names might go
>> away soon as well as there are some experiments with using content hash
>> based URLs so that cache invalidation becomes simpler.
>>
>> So if you want to freeze elements of the current URL structure that
>> should be a wider discussion involving ops and other folks working on media
>> features. You can of course just use it at your own risk, for a JS
>> component that would be no big deal as URL schemas don't change often; not
>> sure how quickly app updates can be pushed out though.
>>
>>
>>> If we could just get the thumbnail server to return the original image
>>> when we go too large we'd be set.
>>>
>>
>> Fragmenting the cache would be problematic (if it comes to that, it's
>> still better to fragment the HTML cache by appending an image size
>> parameter since HTML content is smaller). I think something like T75935
>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75935> could work but AIUI the whole
>> media cache infrastructure is held together with duct tape and no one is
>> particularly enthusiastic to poke at it.
>>
>> We could always request it anyway and fall back manually in case of 400
>>> response (probably won't happen _too_ often).
>>>
>>
>> MediaViewer does that (it also embeds the original size in the article
>> HTML and uses that to guess the right URL); it mostly works but still comes
>> with minor issues such as T70320
>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70320> or strange errors on the beta
>> cluster which has minor differences in thumbnail behavior.
>>
>
>
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Gabriel Wicke
Principal Engineer, Wikimedia Foundation
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