On Aug 15, 2015 14:06, "Magnus Manske" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:38 AM Lydia Pintscher < [email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Dan Garry <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I've seen arguments on both sides here. Some say automatically generated >> > descriptions are not good enough. Some say they are. Why don't we gather >> > some data on this and use that to decide what's right? :-) >> >> Please do. Especially pay attention to languages other than English >> though. Because even if we get algorithms to write good descriptions >> for English are we going to do the same for all the other languages? >> Especially those where grammar is tricky and Wikidata doesn't even >> have the necessary information to make the grammar right? The other >> tricky side is determining why something is actually notable. That's >> not a trivial thing to determine based on the data we have. >> > > And you know very well that (AFAIK) I am the only one who actually worked on this, in a tiny fraction of my spare time, and I only speak German and English. > > The /real/ questions here are: > 1. The language that are actually implemented, are they returning descriptions that are good/OK/bad/plain wrong > 2. What could be achieved, on the existing or similar infrastructure, in a short period of time, if we drive to get code snippets (or equivalent) for other languages from volunteers? > 3. What could be achieved, medium/long term, if we had a proper linguist to work on the problem? Or someone who has worked with multi-language text generation before? > > I've just been winging it so far. Current auto-descriptions are not the best we can do. They are, frankly, the WORST we can do. This is a starting point, not the end product.
Yeah I understand. And this is not a criticism of your work. I think it is actually rather cool. It is questioning if it is a good idea to continue to push it to get into production on Wikipedia on a large scale. Cheers Lydia
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