Does "ceasing active support" include ceasing security updates, or will those continue to be provided to legacy app users?
Pine On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Dan Garry <[email protected]> wrote: > It's also important to note that ending active feature development and > maintenance for older versions of Android does not stop users from > continuing to use the app. As Stephen noted, users on 2.3 devices will > still be able to download the native app and use it as normal, including > Wikipedia Zero. It's just that they won't get the latest features. > > Dan > > On 31 August 2015 at 01:40, Tilman Bayer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> To prevent misunderstandings among cursory readers, and to connect a bit >> with the parallel thread about apps and Global North/South: >> >> Adam's numbers were about ratios among Android app pageviews. If you >> are instead interested in the overall percentage of WP0 pageviews that >> come from the app on those legacy Android devices, one needs to >> consider that the Android app (on any device, new or old) only >> generates 4.4% of WP0 pageviews anyway [4]. >> Per Adam [1], between 14.8% and 16.6% of them are on the legacy >> devices. So that's much less than 1% of the Zero traffic that is >> affected. >> >> BTW, 95.4% of Zero pageviews are via mobile web [5], and just 0.2% >> from the iOS app [6]. >> >> >> [4] >> SELECT SUM(IF(access_method = 'mobile app' AND >> user_agent_map['os_family'] = 'Android',view_count,0))/SUM(view_count) >> FROM wmf.pageview_hourly WHERE year = 2015 AND month = 8 AND day > 19 >> AND day < 27 AND zero_carrier IS NOT NULL; >> >> [5] SELECT SUM(IF(access_method = 'mobile >> web',view_count,0))/SUM(view_count) FROM wmf.pageview_hourly WHERE >> year = 2015 AND month = 8 AND day > 19 AND day < 27 AND zero_carrier >> IS NOT NULL; >> >> [6] SELECT SUM(IF(access_method = 'mobile app' AND >> user_agent_map['os_family'] = 'iOS',view_count,0))/SUM(view_count) >> FROM wmf.pageview_hourly WHERE year = 2015 AND month = 8 AND day > 19 >> AND day < 27 AND zero_carrier IS NOT NULL; >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Ok, those numbers might be significant for the WP0 program. Has WMF >> > Partnerships been consulted about this proposed change to app support >> for >> > legacy Android versions? >> > >> > Pine >> > >> > On Aug 28, 2015 10:53 AM, "Adam Baso" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Following up... >> >> >> >> For Wikipedia Zero tagged Wikipedia for Android access, looking at days >> >> from August 20-26, it looks like about somewhere between 14.8% and >> 16.6% of >> >> pageviews are on Android 2.3-4.0. [1] >> >> >> >> Wikipedia Zero tagged Wikipedia for Android access constitutes about >> 5.3% >> >> of the overall Wikipedia for Android app pageviews, based on a week of >> >> pageviews from August 20-26. >> >> >> >> -Adam >> >> >> >> [1] >> >> >> >> select day, user_agent_map['os_major'], user_agent_map['os_minor'], >> >> sum(view_count) from wmf.pageview_hourly where >> >> year = 2015 and month = 8 and day > 19 and day < 27 >> >> and access_method = 'mobile app' >> >> and zero_carrier is not null >> >> and user_agent_map['os_family'] = 'Android' >> >> group by day, user_agent_map['os_major'], user_agent_map['os_minor']; >> >> >> >> >> >> [2] >> >> >> >> select sum(view_count) >> >> from wmf.pageview_hourly >> >> where year = 2015 and month = 8 and day > 19 and day < 27 >> >> and access_method = 'mobile app' >> >> and user_agent_map['os_family'] = 'Android' >> >> and zero_carrier is null; >> >> >> >> 36197035 >> >> >> >> >> >> select sum(view_count) >> >> from wmf.pageview_hourly >> >> where year = 2015 and month = 8 and day > 19 and day < 27 >> >> and access_method = 'mobile app' >> >> and user_agent_map['os_family'] = 'Android' >> >> and zero_carrier is not null; >> >> >> >> 2032938 >> >> >> >> >> >> 2032938 / (2032938 + 36197035) = 0.05317654815 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I think I can get this in Hadoop. Will get back on thread. >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Just to check: what percentage of Wikipedia Zero users are running >> >>>> Android legacy OS versions? >> >>>> >> >>>> Pine >> >>>> >> >>>> On Aug 27, 2015 12:49 PM, "Stephen Niedzielski" >> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The WMF Android App team will be ceasing active support for older >> >>>>> devices soon, namely devices that run Android 4.0 (Ice Cream >> Sandwich) >> >>>>> or older. Our final legacy device release is expected in mid to late >> >>>>> September[0]. This release will remain available on the Google Play >> >>>>> Store for devices running Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) through 4.0 (Ice >> >>>>> Cream Sandwich). However, future releases will only target devices >> >>>>> running Android 4.0.3 (Ice Cream Sandwich MR1) and higher. [1] >> >>>>> >> >>>>> * Why this is happening >> >>>>> Devices running Android versions older than 4.0.3 make up less >> than >> >>>>> 8%[2] of the Wikipedia for Android install base, and supporting >> older >> >>>>> devices requires disproportionate developer time and effort. >> Focusing >> >>>>> our efforts on the most recent and widely used versions will >> allow us >> >>>>> to provide a faster, more stable, and more delightful Wikipedia >> >>>>> experience. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> * What this means for older devices >> >>>>> Enjoy a stable and beautiful legacy release for as long as you >> wish. >> >>>>> When you're ready for a new device, a sleek and modern app awaits >> >>>>> you. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> * What this means for all other devices >> >>>>> Reap the benefits of a Wikipedia for Android experience built to >> take >> >>>>> advantage of the latest and greatest Android technology available. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -The Wikimedia Android team >> >>>>> >> >>>>> [0] This will be the final planned legacy device release. Allowances >> >>>>> will be made to enable back support patches of critical issues. >> >>>>> [1] https://source.android.com/source/build-numbers.html >> >>>>> [2] Google Play Developer Console, Current Installs by Device on >> August >> >>>>> 20, 2015. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Mobile-l mailing list >> >>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Mobile-l mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mobile-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mobile-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Tilman Bayer >> Senior Analyst >> Wikimedia Foundation >> IRC (Freenode): HaeB >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> > > > > -- > Dan Garry > Lead Product Manager, Discovery > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > >
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