We currently have at least 6 channels, I believe: 1. Desktop Web 2. Mobile Web 3. Android phone 4. Android tablet 5. IPhone 6. Legacy Android phone
I'm no expert on mobile developmemt, but perhaps WMF could experiment with Google's idea on just one channel to start? Pine On Oct 8, 2015 12:23 PM, "Derk-Jan Hartman" <[email protected]> wrote: > I had instant flashbacks to WAP 2.0 when I read about AMP.. > Let’s make a variant of normal websites, that solves problems for mobile, > by limiting options on authors and readers alike.. > > Past experience shows that this just doesn’t work. At least not for those > parties that are already no able to deliver a proper secondary channel. > > DJ > > > On 8 okt. 2015, at 19:23, Tilman Bayer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes, the Niemanlab summary is really informative. Read it last night and > this part kind of jumped out at me: > > *"There are lots of clever ideas here, and it’s understandable why these > constraints would help improve performance. For better and for worse, this > is essentially a rollback of how HTML and web technologies have evolved > over the past decade. It’s a little jarring that so many of the sample AMP > pages on display this morning look a lot like the web of, say, 2002, shrunk > down to a phone screen.: "* > > > Reminds one of a certain website that's often accused (quite rightfully) > of being stuck in 2002... Another point of the article is that a lot of the > perf improvements are being achieved by ruthlessly banning third party ads > and trackers, both of which Wikipedia does anyway because of our neutrality > and privacy principles. > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Luis Villa <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Best big-picture article I saw on it last night was >> http://www.niemanlab.org/2015/10/get-ampd-heres-what-publishers-need-to-know-about-googles-new-plan-to-speed-up-your-website/ >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Jon Katz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> FYI. Google just announced an open source project to create a speedier >>> framework for mobile browsing. It might be worth looking at what they're >>> doing: >>> >>> From: >>> >>> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/10/08/035200/googles-effort-to-speed-up-the-mobile-web?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed >>> >>> >>> Google has officially taken the wraps off its AMP project — Accelerated >>> Mobile Pages <https://www.ampproject.org/> — which aims to speed up the >>> delivery of web content to mobile devices >>> <https://www.ampproject.org/how-it-works/>. They say, "We began to >>> experiment with an idea: could we develop a restricted subset of the things >>> we'd use from HTML, that's both fast and expressive, so that documents >>> would always load and render with reliable performance?" That subset is now >>> encapsulated in AMP, their proof-of-concept. They've posted the code to >>> GitHub <https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml> and they're asking for >>> help from the open source community to flesh it out. Their conclusions are >>> familiar to the Slashdot crowd: "One thing we realized early on is that >>> many performance issues are caused by the integration of multiple >>> JavaScript libraries, tools, embeds, etc. into a page. This isn't saying >>> that JavaScript immediately leads to bad performance, but once arbitrary >>> JavaScript is in play, most bets are off because anything could happen at >>> any time and it is hard to make any type of performance guarantee. With >>> this in mind we made the tough decision that AMP HTML documents would not >>> include any author-written JavaScript, nor any third-party scripts." >>> They're seeing speed boosts anywhere from 15-85%, but they're also looking >>> at pre-rendering options to make some content capable of loading >>> instantaneously. Their FAQ <https://www.ampproject.org/faq/> has a few >>> more details. >>> >>> Google blog announcement: >>> >>> https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2015/10/introducing-accelerated-mobile-pages.html >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Luis Villa >> Sr. Director of Community Engagement >> Wikimedia Foundation >> *Working towards a world in which every single human being can freely >> share in the sum of all knowledge.* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> reading-wmf mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf >> >> > > > -- > Tilman Bayer > Senior Analyst > Wikimedia Foundation > IRC (Freenode): HaeB > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > >
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