Hi Rupert, Thanks for your input. I agree that the switch should sit at the page level rather than creating a universal setting. -J
On Monday, December 14, 2015, rupert THURNER <[email protected]> wrote: > I like the idea. Where you envision to let the user switch easy between > simple and normal? I d love to do this easy for every article not as a > general setting. > > Rupert > On Dec 11, 2015 21:13, "Jon Katz" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> TLDR: want to introduce the idea of surfacing simple english version of >> wikipedia in a more prominent way to test if this appeals to our readers. >> no timeline, no action items, just an intro to the concept and a request >> for feedback/suggestions. >> >> *Bakground:* >> As a refresher/summary, as part of the reading team's strategic process >> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy>, we identified 4 >> reading strategies that we are exploring and want to test hypothesis that >> will help us determine which strategies are more impactful. >> >> I am reviewing our strategy tests (i.e. tests that can help us determine >> if a particular strategy is one we should focus on) and came across some >> notes I made with Abbey (copied) around the potential strategy "Guided >> Educational Experiences" that I wanted to surface and run by you. This >> potential strategy is one where the reading team focuses on enhancing >> learning (comprehension and/or retention) of content. Ideas in this theme >> include identifying prerequisite articles, a suggested order to reading >> articles (curricula), simple or practical versions of articles, quizzes or >> even games. To be clear, this is a potential strategy that we are >> evaluating along with others, as described here >> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy/Strategy_Process/Testing#About>. >> I also want to acknowledge that there have likely been other experiments in >> this area--if you have specific examples you would like to share, please do >> so. The test proposed below came about from one such awareness. >> >> *The test:* >> One idea for this strategy was "simplified versions of >> articles"--versions of articles for readers who were unfamiliar with the >> topic or lacked a basic educational foundation. That wikipedia articles >> are sometimes to advanced is not a novel observation, but it's a tough nut >> to crack. >> >> We had originally framed the test as "will editors want to create >> simplified versions of articles" and we planned on asking them. However >> the work that James Helman is doing with editors translating medical >> documents into more practical guides in Swahili [link?] seems to show there >> is interest here. However, we felt that SimpleEnglish was, in itself, a >> remarkable test of what is being proposed, even though its focus is on >> simple wording rather than concept simplicity. The most often-cited problem >> (anecdote) with SimpleEnglish is that very few readers can find it. This >> makes sense: someone confused by sophisticated vocabulary or looking for a >> summary of an article is not likely to check the language list to see if a >> simple version of the article sits there. >> >> So the proposed test would be to surface simple english in a more >> prominent way and to test if this led to higher comprehension using either >> quick surveys or a proxy, like pageviews. I added the broad outlines of the >> test to our strategy test document, here >> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy/Strategy_Process/Testing#Create_deep-dive_.28guided.29_educational_experience> >> . >> >> *The ask:* >> This is not part of our proposed Q3 plans or even our Q4 plans, but I >> would like to hear feedback and ideas around how we could effectively >> integrate it into our plans. One idea would be to implement it on one of >> the apps, first, since we can move things around there without disturbing >> as many people. We are open to suggestions. >> >> Best, >> >> J >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >>
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