I also noticed that I forgot to sign my name in my previous message on Beijing 
subway. Sorry for that.

Boxu Yang
School of Journalism and Communication
Peking University

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Ha-ha,

I have noticed the unmediated "imagined privacy" on Beijing public
transport - more on buses than on subways. I have also noticed the
reverse in NYC. On the M42 - the bus that goes from Midtown to the 
Chinese Embassy - some Chinese Embassy employees got on and proceeded
to speak noisily to each other in Chinese. Several of the passengers
gave them dirty looks and finally one of them told them to shut their
face, although in not such nice terms. The Chinese workers were a
little flabbergasted.

Also,I noticed a lot more loud jabbering in public places in Shanghai
and Xuzhou and less in Beijing. I think this may be a stereotypical
north-south divide characteristic, but I found some truth in it.

sj

On 1/22/06, Boxu Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here in Beijing, I mainly take public transportation to go somewhere. The 
> riders of either subway or bus are primarily younger people or relatively low 
> income groups. And a big portion of them is not native Beijing born. Anyway, 
> the income oriented stratification is getting more and more obvious in terms 
> of commuting.
> I remembered one of the topic discussed was on "imagined privacy". My 
> observation is that some riders often talk loud with their friends 
> (co-riders) even they are not on the phone. (Of course, this sort of thing is 
> more common in Beijing restaurants). Indeed, the practice of privatization of 
> public place has never been really challenged in Chinese culture. I wonder if 
> this is one of the reasons why mobile phones are diffused so rapidly in 
> China. One step further, for cultures that endorse a sharper line between 
> public space and private space, I wonder if the mobile phone may facilitate 
> the erosion of the social norm.
>
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School of Communication and Theater
Temple University

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