Rajesh: Of course technically it supports physical key pad but manufacturers may not get big market. Also there is a huge development going on to improve accessibility.
I think add-on Bluetooth key board may serve the purpose. Honestly I don't think we can convince device makers to come up with physical keyboard. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C > On 22-May-2015, at 15:32, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: > > Why not? > I fully support keypad over touch screens.\ > Does android OS technically prohibit interface with keypad? > > > With thanks and regards > > (Rajesh Asudani) > > AGM > MIU > Reserve Bank Of India > Nagpur > > Co-Moderator > VIB-India > > President > VIBEWA > > Phone: 0712 2806846 > > A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and Laughter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mobile.accessindia > [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H > P > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:41 AM > To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones > and Tabs. > Subject: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and it > Wants to Shine on your Android device > > All > Appreciate all the comments and sentiments expressed in the mail. > > A request, not to start a debate on keyboard vs keyboardless devices. > > Harish Kotian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mobile.accessindia > [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, > Rajesh > Sent: 22 May 2015 10:08 > To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones > and Tabs. > Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine > on your Android device > > Good. > May newer screen readers continue to shine on android. > But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most of totally blind > persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in android > touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and > privacy on phone. > For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill > task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months now. > This will be the case until an android device with keypad comes along. > > > With thanks and regards > > (Rajesh Asudani) > > AGM > MIU > Reserve Bank Of India > Nagpur > > Co-Moderator > VIB-India > > President > VIBEWA > > Phone: 0712 2806846 > > A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and Laughter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mobile.accessindia > [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bhavya > shah > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM > To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers > Subject: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on > your Android device > > There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device > TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has been the only > good and useful screen reader on Android — though this was not always the > case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which was alive around > 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in functionality and > speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire framework for how > accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more. > Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even under > Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of work to be a > daily driver. > And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1 > megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is developed > by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English text of the > program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not take away > from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be patient with the > interface. The manual can be found here in a text file form. > You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback? > Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must note > that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a screen > magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This means > that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the same time. > In the Android world, that’s definitely a first, and this reason alone could > make it useful for many people, since changing the mode it operates in is > very simple. > When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call itself > “Another Talkback screen reader”), you need to launch the application from > your home screen to configure it. Here you will set your desired mode > depending on the level of vision you have. First, the app will actually check > whether you have Google TTS or the keyboard installed, and then will proceed > to allow you the option to set your mode of preference. Once you press the > back button, it will place you into the Accessibility settings of Android, > where you will be given a list of available services. > The three options are “based on voice support”, “based on letter expansion”, > and “sight protection.” No, it will not protect you from the horrors of the > sighted world — that latter choice is for those who need to have parts of the > screen spoken outloud from time to time. It allows you to use a “candy bar” > which you can pan around the screen and use to read parts of it accordingly. > Voice support is what those who are completely blind will use, while the > other one (letter expansion) is for those who need letters zoomed bigger as > they use their device. Once you have set your choice, enabling the screen > reader is the next challenge. > We have found that in most cases, it is impossible to press “OK” after the > confirmation dialog appears which asks you to turn on Shine Plus. > This is easy enough to resolve, though requires some agility. When you have > reached the alert prompt to enable it, Pause Talkback either through the > global context menu or the new volume up+ volume down key combination. Once > paused, press near the bottom right corner of the screen, right above the > home/back/recents button bar of your device. > This will activate Shine plus, though you are not yet done. Lock the screen > to have Talkback return. Next, go back and disable Talkback to have Shine > Plus function properly. > Some people have reported success with the “tripple click home” > function of Shine Plus. Here, you would disable talkback and press your home > button three times in quick succession to enable the service. This for us was > a hit or miss on devices that do not have a physical home button– sometimes > it works, other times not so. If you are using a Galaxy device however, > simply disable talkback in Accessibility settings and press the home button > three times. > The screen reader offers some functionality not present in Talkback. > For example, you can copy the screen to the clipboard, or parts of text. The > “command panel” (similar to Talkback’s global menu) is feature packed with > other functions. There are two interesting ones called Ear Talk and whisper. > With Ear Talk, you can choose a specific detail of your phone (battery > status, last message) to be spoken through your phone’s earpiece when it is > held to your head. Ear Talk will redirect all speech to this speaker > entirely, so (in theory) it could be used in situations where you are looking > for privacy but do not have headphones. In practice, it is a bit tricky to > use as a touch screen element can easily be activated. > To access the command pannel, swipe right than left in quick succession. You > will hear two high-pitched tones and the announcement, “command panel.” Here > are the options, from top to bottom, exploring the screen in a line left to > right: > • Top two lines: Includes speech and volume increments (2 stage speed on > first line, / 70% volume, on second, for example.) • third line: Key echo. > Notification method (Block or output all notifications), wi-fi (toggle > on/off), Bluetooth (toggle on/off), cover mode (toggle on/off), speak call > info, Whisper auto mode, and ear talk. > • Third line: Short key, label (for graphics), marking (seems to auto label > graphics?), version information, screen auto read, screen character string > (spells out item in last focus), app delete, translation. > • Fourth line – granularities: character, word, line, paragraph, default, > copy, additional copy, paste. > • Fifth line: Web list, web editbox, web phone number, Web search, Youtube > search, app search, voice search. These open corresponding apps on your > device, such as Youtube or the Voice Search app. > • sixth line: Short key list, Shine setting, device (opens up your settings > app), execute app list (opens up overview or recent apps list), sound (sound > settings), Keyboard (language and input), accessibility (same as in > settings.) No doubt this list is a bit overwhelming, and for this reason > Shine Plus might be useful for more advanced users or those who just want a > higher degree of customization. Talkback still wins for some, because it is > simple to configure, is not cluttered, and thus less complicated. > Similar to Talkback, it will tell you when you plug or unplug a power source. > Scrolling is a bit problematic, because there is no proper earcon for knowing > how far you are in a list — it uses the Browse Mode exit sound from the > popular NVDA screen reader to indicate scrolling. > This was by far the largest problem with Shine Plus, and the manual is not > very clear on what each setting is about. > For users of devices that have capacitive buttons such as the Galaxy series, > Shine Plus also allows you to double tap these (similar to how it would be on > a nexus or soft-button based device), rather than using them with one tap. > This feature, curiously, is also present in the latest Galaxy S6 as an > accessibility setting. Other interesting features to note include the ability > for seek controls to be raised or lowered with the volume keys (this is also > now in Talkback 4.2), options to configure how the phone keypad works (and > whether a swipe up on the screen will answer/end calls), configuring what > notifications are read outloud, an option that unlocks your device > automatically when power button is pressed (if there is no pin), and even a > feature that will launch a specific application after your screen is turned > on. > Could this make a good daily screen reader? That’s your call. For now, this > is a project worth keeping tabs on, as it could give Google’s efforts a > serious run if it improves right over time. If you’re patient and advanced > enough, go ahead, give it a try. 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