"David N. Welton" wrote:
> 
> So, in between jobs, I have a bit more time to hack on things:->
> 
> I would like to know what features people would like to see?

* File upload. This is probably the most important thing.
* A way to run several sites on the same Apache server, where each site
may have its own global code. Could be solved with an interpreter per
virtual server.
* A possibility to use safe interpreters. The safe interpreter would be
set up in the child_init script and .ttml files would be processed by
it.

> Would people like to see donated code for various things? (web mail,
> tables, whatnot)?

Of cause :-)

The obvious alternatives to mod_dtcl, php and ASP, have the great
advantage that there are many off-the-shelf components to do various
things. Even though Tcl may be easier to learn and use and more general
(not web-only like php), it may, overall, be easier to use one of the
others if there are suitable components available for the particular
project.

> Other thoughts/ideas/considerations?

Right now mod_dtcl is a good choise for relatively simple things, where
only little code is needed, and for things where all or by far most code
has to be custom developed anyway. Tcl is the most suitable language if
the application primarily works with text as code and textual data is so
easy to mix in Tcl. But for complex data structures, other languages
(Python, Java, even php) are more powerful and perform better.

> What do you guys think could help mod_dtcl (and Tcl/Apache) from an
> image point of view?

We need to define exactly where Tcl is superiour to other languages and
"sell" it for those purposes.

The major problem in the Tcl world today is that there are so many
incompatible ways of doing everything. OO: [incr tcl], Stooop, Tcl++,
ObjTcl; web: mod_dtcl, AOL Server, WebShell, tclHttpd, NeoWebScript, you
name it. I could go on. This is a situation that really gives Tcl a bad
image. If Tcl is to survive, standardization is a key area. Imagine if
the same code, building on an extensive set of standard components,
could be used in mod_dtcl, AOL Server and tclHttpd! One would have a
choise of using Apache (mod_dtcl), a stand-alone webserver (AOL Server)
and a simple Tcl-only webserver (tclHttpd) without having to rewrite any
code to change server!

regards, jfk

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