ANT is, unfortunately, not currently an option. (I'm trying to get us
there, but there's only so fast I can turn this ocean liner, and I'm
not the only one at the wheel.)

Is there a way to import information into Coldspring.xml?

On Apr 22, 10:10 am, Doug Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:
> Al -
>
> I think you're headed in the right direction.  Essentially, what you're
> saying is that your configuration settings need to change in your ColdSpring
> XML as you deploy from development to staging and production.
>
> The way we tend to handle that at Alagad is to keep the development version
> of ColdSpring.xml in our SVN repo.  So, the developers would always use the
> development version of the ColdSpring config.  (There are gradiations on
> this, but they're not really relevant to your question.)
>
> We then automate the deployment process to staging and production using
> Ant.  As a part of the deployment process we modify the ColdSpring
> configuration to use our production settings.
>
> So, for example, if we had a component for sending email we might have two
> objects configured in coldspring, an EmailSender and a MockEmailSender.  In
> development anything that needed to send email would use the EmailSender.
> When we deploy to staging or production we might replace instances of the
> MockEmailSender with EmailSender.  Actually, in all honesty, I simply don't
> configure the mail server in development and look in the undeliverable mail
> folder to make sure messages are getting created correctly.  However, there
> are other instances where settings need to change between development and
> staging or production and we use Ant to make those settings.
>
> In particular, we tend to use CFAnt as a part of our Ant deployment process
> so we can make settings changes to the ColdFusion server as well.  For
> example, we can configure datasources, turn on trusted caching, clear the
> template cache, configure event gateways, start them, etc, all from one
> script.  And, because it's Ant, running it from Eclipse is really, really,
> easy.
>
> I hope that helps!
>
> Doug Hughes, President
> Alagad Inc.
> [email protected]
> 888 Alagad4 (x300)
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>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Al <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm wondering how people manage differing configuration settings for
> > the same app in different environments.
>
> > Let me expand on what I mean.
>
> > We have three tiers of servers: DEVELOPMENT, TEST, and PRODUCTION
> > (hereafter D, T, P). For each of our applications we will have
> > settings that vary based on environment. For instance, we may have a
> > "test e-mail" to trap any outgoing e-mail and re-route it to the
> > address in the setting rather than letting it go to the actual
> > recipient. (Helps prevent messages being sent to live people from an
> > app being tested.) In D that would probably be set to the development
> > team, in T it would be set to the test team, and in P it would be
> > NULL. Every app has a couple or half-dozen such settings.
>
> > In the past, MG1.1, I'd create three separate ModelGlue.xml files and
> > they'd each have differences in their CONFIG blocks, but everything
> > else would be the same. (They would be renamed to ModelGlue.xml on
> > each server during deployment.) That worked okay, but it meant that
> > whenever an event-handler or message-listener got changed, I'd have to
> > change three files. Not the end of the world, but we did have cases
> > where people with less attention to detail forgot to change the
> > production version, for instance.
>
> > I then started using GetModelGlue().GetConfigBean() and having only
> > one version of ModelGlue.xml and a config.xml for each of my three
> > environments. A little more work, but I only had to change all three
> > if I was adding a configuration setting; the application plumbing was
> > just the one file. That works much better.
>
> > However, I'm now forging ahead with developing using MG2.
> > Configuration settings are in Coldspring.xml. That's fine, but I'm
> > also looking to leverage Coldspring's power to define my components.
> > Obviously, they'll be the same no matter what environment the
> > application is in, but the config blocks will have to differ. This
> > puts me back to the same basic problem I had with the versions of
> > ModelGlue.xml for each environment.
>
> > So, before I go too far down the rabbit hole, what do other people do
> > to manage multiple configurations of a single application?- Hide quoted 
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