I like Renderer objects, especially when the objects you need to render are
quite complex. Handling such complexity in a non-OO way can get quite ugly.
For instance, one of the legacy applications I maintain renders complex
"widgets" by using a line similar to the following:

<cfinclude template="dspWidget_#widget.getWidgetTypeId()#.cfm" />

Eeeeewwww! For one thing, the different widget types are not rendered that
differently, so there is a _LOT_ of code duplication across the widget type
templates. A WidgetRenderer would definitely be a better approach for
improved maintainability.

On the other extreme, sometimes I just want to render some "stuff" that I
don't yet need to be represented as an object in my model. The emails that I
render using the MG ViewRenderer contain daily report data for business
units to be sent to the corresponding business unit managers. Once the
emails are sent I never refer to them again, so creating a
DailyAlertEmail.cfc to represent the report data and recipients and then
creating a DailyAlertEmailRenderer.cfc to render DailyAlertEmail objects as
text for the email body feels a little like overkill ... at least for this
instance.

As for a perfect world, remember the maxim that "perfect is the enemy of the
good". In my case the MG ViewRender hits a sweet spot for me: I can pass
simple data to it and it renders output in the exact same way my normal
views are rendered, and I can loop over the business units and use the same
ViewRenderer to render the email for each one. That was enough for what I
needed to do in this case, even though it may not be the best solution for
_every_ case.

-- Dennis

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:24 AM, denstar <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Chris Blackwell<[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> > I don't know whether you found this but there was a similar discussion a
> > while back
> >
> http://groups.google.com/group/model-glue/browse_thread/thread/22ca37547741b669
> > FWIW I favour the same approach as Dennis.  The simplicity of keeping all
> my
> > templates as "views", rather than a mixture of  views, custom tags and
> > home-grown templating language, is worth the trade-off of using MG in a
> > slightly unorthodox way to render those templates when needed.
> > Chris
>
> That sounds like a decent solution to mee too (especially since we
> don't do much fancy stuff in views, tho linkTo() and whatnot are
> getting us there), but I gotta say, that also sounds like mixing
> things that shouldn't be *cough*in a perfect world*cough*.
>
> For my money, "renderers" are where "it's" at.  You're not
> copy-and-pasting various views from project to project, you can do
> inheritance type deals (theoretically reducing repetition, but it
> might depend on if you work on many projects or few projects, etc.),
> and you can use them in "views" (not just MG views).
>
> I mean, this is probably from futsing with eclipse, but it seems like
> the UI is a model itself, as confusing as that may be with terms like
> MVC (they're all models! ahhhhh!).
>
> Eh.  I'll holler when I've got The Perfect Code to share, if ya dig,
> but that's sorta my line of thinking.
>
> --
> No noble or right style was ever yet founded but out of a sincere heart.
> --Ruskin
>
> >
>

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