Excellent Jared!

I wanted to use the CF9 ORM but the project I'm fooling with is CF8 so I
went from my cfObjective() memory of Mark's preso. Good info though.

Thanks, I'll take another stab at this project later in the week when I jump
back on this gig. That is to say...look for more questions l8r. :-D

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On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Jared Rypka-Hauer
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> On Oct 6, 2009, at 5:28 PM 10/6/09, John C. Bland II wrote:
>
> >
> > So I've decided to bite the bullet and try out MG. This is my very
> > first attempt at it and a few things have come up.
> >
> > 1) Using MG, ColdSpring, and Transfer
> > There are two or three places where a datasource is set. This is
> > pretty counter-intuitive (change N places to tweak the datasource
> > name). Did I do something incorrect or is this simply going to happen?
>
> If you're using Transfer or Reactor, the only place that the DSN
> really matters is in their config files.
>
> > 2) Transfer vs Reactor
> > I know...this is a subjective question but I noticed the docs made
> > mention to Reactor for scaffolding. More-so curious as it applies to
> > MG here and not so interested in a "mine is bigger" convo.
>
> Transfer is objectively more performant, and has a ton of features
> that Reactor doesn't, like it's own pseudo-language "TQL" (Transfer
> Query Language), which is like a shorthand SQL. It also has a busier
> mailing list... subjectively speaking, it looks like Transfer is a
> more active community. However since CF9 announced ORM, Mark Mandel
> (Transfer's author) has basically pronounced Transfer, if not dead
> then comatose. TransferObjects become your business objects, but you
> can extend them to implement your own business behaviors within the
> object model. Transfer also has a robust caching mechanism (which is
> actually about to be rewritten).
>
> Reactor is still an active project, managed by Mark Drew, previously
> of the CFEclipse project. Originally written by Doug Hughes of
> Alagad.com, it's dedicated to the Active Record approach, somewhat
> less performant than Transfer, and has no caching mechanism
> whatsoever. It does provide an extensible object model, but the
> objects tend to be "heavier" than those of Transfer. The primary
> attraction of Reactor is the AR pattern it supports and it's somewhat
> simpler API.
>
> > 3) Templates
> > Page 1-3 are public but 4-8 are private so they have different nav
> > items. What is the best practice here? Do templates get the same
> > business "data" passed into the event as the page?
>
> Every view template gets a handle on the Event object, so all data in
> the event is available to all view templates. If you have a broadcast
> that fetches nav content  based on their login status and puts it in
> the event, you can then use that in any <include /> touched by the
> request.
>
> > 4) Pages
> > The pages folder could get hairy fast if you have a lot of cfm's. Is
> > it common to make pages/{subfolder name}/{page}.cfm to separate cfm's?
>
> Yes. I love the easy questions.
>
> > 5) File locations
> > Is it common to put all of the MG stuff out of the root (where
> > possible of course) and only have css/scripts in the root? If so, to
> > what extent? Could the root be completely empty minus public files or
> > is that bad practice?
>
> Yes. It's not bad practice at all... in fact it's very wise and fairly
> common. You can use application-specific mappings and the viewmappings
> config setting in the MG config file to tell the application where to
> find the view files. All that should be in the webroot is
> Application.cfc, index.cfm and your static files (images, css, PDFs,
> yadda yadda).
>
> > As you can see from the questioning I'm trying to find the best
> > practices. It is a definite switch in my mind to make the MG jump but
> > I'm trying to stick with it. I figured this group could help alleviate
> > my pains. :-)
>
> Indeed. We rawk. You rawk. Let's hug the internet. ;)
>
> >
>

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