By the way, John Mason offered a 30 day trial of their shared hosting offering:
I actually manage FusionLink which is another option you can try. We have > shared hosting users using MG without any problems and I would be happy to > directly help you if you like. We do have a 30 day trial for the shared > hosting so you can try things out. He is a Model Glue contributor so I'd definitely trust his abilities and knowledge on successfully hosting Model-Glue projects. DW On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Preserved Killick <[email protected]>wrote: > Just a follow up for future searching. The "report execution times" > was elevated to some higher up techs, and they agreed to turn it off. > However, it made no difference. As it stands, the bare framework files > won't load, they timeout every time without the timeout URL appended. > I'll moving to a VPS somewhere. > > jeff > > On Dec 17, 11:30 am, Dan Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Crystal Tech runs a production server with Report Execution Times on? > Wow. > > > > Definitely look for another host. No OO based application, or any > > application that uses any CFCs at all will ever run respectably with this > > configuration. > > > > DW > > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Preserved Killick <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Guys, > > > > > I just got off the phone with CrystalTech, and Report Execution Times > > > is indeed checked. Unfortunatley I was unable to get them to alter > > > this setting. > > > > > I agree that a VPS would be great, but in this case may not be an > > > option. > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:56 am, Dan Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > These are good questions and I'm glad you bring them up. Shared > Hosting > > > is > > > > always problematic for pretty much any application, mostly because > any of > > > > the other 1000 applications on the server could be hogging more than > > > their > > > > fair share of server resources. > > > > > > Shared Hosting is like the Wild Wild West. There are really no rules > > > > governing what happens. If there is a misbehaving application on the > > > server, > > > > it affects everyone. Infinite loops, inappropriate caching, bad code, > all > > > > this stuff is on the server you are on and will cause problems at one > > > time > > > > or another. There really isn't much you can do under a shared hosting > > > model. > > > > > > One option might be to go back t a Virtual Private Server. As you > know, a > > > > VPS has fractioned server resources and provides boundaries from > other > > > > applications on the server. This means a runaway application on > another > > > VPS > > > > will not affect your VPS, even if both VPSs are on the same server. > This > > > > usually costs a little more than a shared hosting account, but > delivers > > > more > > > > value because your applications function better from a regulated > > > > environment. > > > > > > I can say there are hundreds of folks running Model Glue 3 on shared > > > > hosting. Most likely this is the result of a server misconfiguration, > > > > possibly with debugging or server monitoring, or with another > application > > > > running on the server, overconsuming resources. > > > > > > Having Report Execution Times turned on will be bloody murder on a > CFC > > > based > > > > application. Having Memory Tracking on (even if the server monitor is > > > off) > > > > can supposedly severely impede an OO based application. > > > > > > However CrystalTech are good hosts and have been hosting OO based > > > ColdFusion > > > > applications for years, so I'm sure they know this. > > > > > > DW > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Preserved Killick < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > I've used Model-Glue 2 with success on private and VPS servers. No > > > > > issues at at all. > > > > > > > For a new project, which will likely remain on a shared hosting > > > > > environent at Crystaltech I can't even get the bare MG3 framework > > > > > files to load due to timeout issues. Only by using index.cfm? > > > > > requesttimeout=600 can I get it to load. > > > > > > > Crystaltech was willing to move the site to a server with a newer > > > > > version of JVM (1.6.0_10) with no better performance. I've read > that > > > > > HMS has similar issues. > > > > > > > So, I ask, is MG realistic for a shared hosting environment? > > > > > > > Are there solutions out there i'm missing? I've tought about trying > an > > > > > account sometwhere with CF9, but don't look forward to the time > > > > > involved with the process of host shopping. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Model-Glue Sites: > > > > > Home Page:http://www.model-glue.com > > > > > Documentation:http://docs.model-glue.com > > > > > Bug Tracker:http://bugs.model-glue.com > > > > > Blog:http://www.model-glue.com/blog > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups "model-glue" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<model-glue%[email protected]> > <model-glue%[email protected]<model-glue%[email protected]> > > > > > <model-glue%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/model-glue?hl=en > > > > > > -- > > > > “Come to the edge, he said. They said: We are afraid. Come to the > edge, > > > he > > > > said. They came. He pushed them and they flew.” > > > > > > Guillaume Apollinaire quotes- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > Model-Glue Sites: > > > Home Page:http://www.model-glue.com > > > Documentation:http://docs.model-glue.com > > > Bug Tracker:http://bugs.model-glue.com > > > Blog:http://www.model-glue.com/blog > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "model-glue" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<model-glue%[email protected]> > <model-glue%[email protected]<model-glue%[email protected]> > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/model-glue?hl=en > > > > -- > > “Come to the edge, he said. They said: We are afraid. Come to the edge, > he > > said. They came. He pushed them and they flew.” > > > > Guillaume Apollinaire quotes > > -- > Model-Glue Sites: > Home Page: http://www.model-glue.com > Documentation: http://docs.model-glue.com > Bug Tracker: http://bugs.model-glue.com > Blog: http://www.model-glue.com/blog > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "model-glue" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<model-glue%[email protected]> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/model-glue?hl=en > -- “Come to the edge, he said. They said: We are afraid. Come to the edge, he said. They came. 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