Okay, fine -- I'll bite.. Pardon my Scandinavian, I promise to kick myself in the ass afterwards. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: << When its not indie, it loses its gravity, loses the very stuff that makes it worth my time to listen to. >> No one knows about me. People who do know me, come to know of me by word of mouth only. I spam no one. I have no personal manager. I am 100% underground - a pinnacle of indie-ness. So weigh my blather, and listen to me VERY carefully... << BULLFUCKINGSHIT.... I listen to indie music because it lets me connect with the artist in a way that is IMPOSSIBLE when every single person knows every single line of every single song they've ever written. >> BACDAFUCUP.... Which fraction of the faction is this concerning? It's all about entrance populations and vector science, I suppose. Given extreme conditions as such, however, it's pretty much an infinite equation. That is -- it's sorta like asking "Which came first, the egg or the egg?" And, in accepting this rationale, isn't it, in turn, being said that your realities and connections are essentially limited to external conditions? I wouldn't be introducing anything less than trite to dismiss it as a capricious contention -- shallow, really. Don't get me wrong, wading pools serve their purpose and all... but given the argument's concern with assessing certain "virtues", I am assuming that integrity is an integral. Perhaps I am assuming way too much. In any event, it seems to me that just about every single person *I* know is more than well aware of MM at this point, wouldn't you agree? Let's assume, for example, a typical MM show. Regarding empirical reaction, an average of 500 people a night are quite informed as to both the appropriate measure and count for echoing "fakes!" during Trailer Trash. Of course, you may counter this with arguments on fractions and populations and cross-sections and set theory. To this I say: phooey! At least Malthus had SOME pragmatic benefits to offer us. Are you a baby basher? I'll bet you are. << Modest mouse is and always will be a thousand times better when that connection is a personal one. Dont forget why they started going underground in the first place. >> Were MM ever underground? That's news to me. For an underground band, there sure seems to be an awful lot of hammy press photos floating around, not to slag 'em. Obviously someone wasn't around for the whole all-black, buckle adorning, Caesar haircut phase... yeesh. << There are a billion bands out there, all playing and saying basically the same thing, what makes one different from the other is YOUR perception of them based on factors which are both superfluous to the music and not normally based on any type of reason. >> Thank you Casey Kasem. How fashionably post-modern. I'll try and keep this in mind when going to the MM / Korn show. Maybe I'll end up seeing Korn in a whole new light. After all, that Korn singer and Isaac have eerily similar stage moves, wouldn't you say? "Let it breakthrough!" Anyhow (here's where I attempt to maintain some sort of list-topicality). If I remember correctly, the first MM show I saw was some while back. They were opening for Lync and Hush Harbor (or Easton Bridge) at the Velvet Elvis. For the next year or two following that, I recall seeing them perform on a number of occasions with next to nil attendance. Then, at some point after releasing "Long Drive", they were headlining the VE with swarms of fanatic kids, all of whom knew every word to every song, jumping up and down in excitement over the fact their new favourite band was playing their new favourite song. Admittedly, it was rather amusing and peculiar. But, I don't remember feeling bitter at all. In no way did I feel as if my "connection" with MM had been diminished or trivialised in any respect. In fact, I remember feeling really happy for them, and the kids. I mean, if anything, it's awe-inspiring to see a once-lesser-known band earn the capacity to have a substantial effect on a greater population. Well.. sorry to pollute your inbox. It's late, and I'm currently operating on stunted synapse. Disregard anything I may have said. 111/10000/11111001111 b nath : *
