In a message dated 99-11-29 21:00:44 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<< Wedrenstar said:
"the mouse's music, as i'm sure youknow, doesn't have
anything to do with a belief in and love of christ or
god."
I'm afraid I missed the majority of this discussion,
but I would like to point out that there are a few
Modest Mouse songs that mention heaven, hell, (St.)
Peter, & God. That is not to say that we can extract
those lyrics and propose that they are Isaac's
beliefs, but surely there is a reasoning behind his
decision to use them. And only he should surmise what
those reasons are.
Let's see what else I've missed...
*phiL* >>
I was mainly making the point that, conceding these references (which i
didn't actually do in my original diatribe, though i should have), it doesn't
come across as preaching or trying to convert. and, in pointing this out,
you've made my argument even stronger, as the person who originally went off
about the fine mr. jurado and his religious beliefs is a mouse fan (one would
assume, as he's on this discussion list), yet the mouse contains more literal
references to god and christianity-related subjects than damien jurado.
i also noted, to someone else on this list, that those references always seem
to be from more of an outsider's standpoint, or how religion affects him as a
non-believer. in styrofoam boots, he even refers to "us atheists," placing
himself in a context in which he is dealing with the idea that his own
spirituality may be wrong in his exclusion of god. either way, i think that
isaac prefers to complicate the issue as it probably (from my own
interpretative standpoint) isn't completely clear to him. hence, shortly
after declaring himself an atheist, he explains "god takes care of himself,
and you of you," which is a statement in diametrical opposition with the
tenets of atheism.
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