Yeah, I know, it's Cremson.
        
 

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Is this what happens when one "choose" to go to Clemson? My god, what's
> in that red tide they're serving?!
>       
> BB: Crooks, every last one of them.
>  
> 
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Bill, Wright wrote:
> 
> > Ok whether it is $6 or $15 is besides the point...  But back to the 
> > point---it's not as if Modest Mouse is a victim to this major label.  Don't 
> > forget they choose to sign with Epic.  Epic did not "screw the general 
> > public", Modest Mouse did.  If, instead of making it a Japanese tour only 
> > release, they also released it on Up Records or Epic in to normal 
> > distribution channels, there would be no issue.  However, Modest Mouse 
> > choose not to.  They are not a victim.
> > 
> > Given that Modest Mouse has chosen for this EP not to be in wide release, 
> > it is no one's right to say "Ok, well I want it anyways, I'll steal it."
> > 
> > And yes, it is possible for this to detract from sales.  How many people 
> > didn't buy the singles comp because they already had all the mp3 
> > files?   There are people, I can guarentee you, who did not buy the singles 
> > comp because they had the files.  I know at least three people personally 
> > who didn't.
> > 
> > It's very important to remember that the band has a large degree of control 
> > here.  Maybe you should be questioning the band rather than the label about 
> > its decisions?
> > 
> > I'm not saying I agree with either side, I simply want to present both 
> > sides because it seems people are too easily following the "big 
> > corporation=evil=I deserve the music" mind set.    No one is protecting the 
> > artistic integrity of a band besides the artist themselves.  To say 
> > otherwise is bullshit.
> > 
> > I know this all sounds quite harsh, and that's not how I intended it.  I 
> > think Russ is a great guy and I like his music, I liked it enough to spend 
> > a lot of time doing a remix of it.  I appreciate what he does, and 
> > personally yes I did download and listen to the mp3s.  But I think the 
> > situation is a lot more complicated than most make it out to be.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > At 10:45 AM 2/11/00 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > Same deal with the japanese tour ep. If you tried
> > > > hard enough....it was possible to get a copy for $6.
> > >
> > >
> > >I don't think the tour EP was EVER available for only
> > >$6, not even from K.  In fact, I know it wasn't.
> > >I was able to get four copies directly from a store in
> > >Japan for about $15 a piece, and that was without
> > >shipping (which got to be a bit salty, kids).
> > >Don't get me wrong, however.  I think it's excellent
> > >that Russ put them up because not everyone had the
> > >chance to buy them in the first place even if they had
> > >the money.  My understanding is that there are only
> > >700 copies in existence worldwide, and since it went
> > >out of print immediately, it's not like the mp3's are
> > >detracting from sales of the EP on the market or
> > >anything like that.
> > >
> > > > Certainly Modest Mouse isn't oblivious to the fact
> > > > that fans would want to hear these songs
> > >
> > >Well, that's exactly where the major label comes in.
> > >Epic declared that they would no longer allow the sale
> > >of the tour EP because some of the songs were/are/have
> > >been re-recorded, and they didn't want anyone to
> > >undermine the buying power of their newest signing.
> > >There are publishing and copyright issues that Epic
> > >felt the need to protect, and unfortunately that
> > >screwed the general buying public (in the USA, at
> > >least) out of this excellent collection of songs.
> > >
> > >But thanks to the legendary Ruxx, the saga continues.
> > >
> > >And if you haven't thanked him today, for the
> > >countless mp3's or for protecting the artistic
> > >integrity of one of yr favorite bands or for putting
> > >up pictures of dope hotties for you to drool over,
> > >maybe you should thank him now.  He's listening.
> > >
> > >
> > >unsolicited spokesman for the Ruxx campaign,
> > >*phiL*
> > 
> > 
> 
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