Rick Reel said: "i think that in this case his arguements are totally stupid, biased and oblivious (no offense meant phil)." Gee, none taken. But meet me by the monkey bars at recess for a clock-cleaning. "phil, i'm sorry i think you're in the wrong on this one ...this time i think you need to calm down, reread everything and have a nice soothing cup of tea before responding to this arguement. don't be confident of your answer before you've thought about it some." And you, my friend, are entitled to yr opinion as surely as I am entitled to mine. Listen, I'm not afraid to step down when I feel I am incorrect about something. But what we are discussing is a matter of opinion, not cold hard concrete fact. You could say, "the song 'Dramamine' appears on the Modest Mouse LP 'The Lonesome Crowded West,'" and that would be factually inaccurate and wrong. However, you could say, "downloading mp3's from the internet and burning them to cd-r is wrong," and that would be a matter of moral and ethical opinion, which no one could claim is ultimately wrong or right (unless you want to weigh in the possible judicial implications of duplicating copyrighted material, and whether or not the cd-r would be for personal use or re-sale, and so forth). I am as guilty as anybody of slapping on the war paint and tossing accusations like a salad, but I also realize in retrospect that it would always be more appropriate for me to say, "I *disagree* with you on this or that subject." I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, and I've been a part of mailing list discussions before where I have reevaluated my position and taken the appropriate action. But this particular discussion is not one of those instances in my mind, and just because *YOU* happen to think I'm wrong doesn't mean that *I* need to drink tea and change my mind, ya dig?. Can't we just agree to disagree? It takes all kinds to make up a world. spitting pits in my bowl of cherries, *phiL* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
