[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Styx) wrote: 

    Going to the Rebel Beat website never occured to me because there was
    never any doubt that the EP was released by that label.  It still wouldn't
    solve anything.  Phil already clarified what I was mistaken about -- the 
EP
    *was* endorsed.  I had heard otherwise.  Another thing that had misled me
    was a post by Phil himself back in February, which I'll quote;

     "Epic declared that they would no longer allow the sale of the tour EP
    because some of the songs were/are/have been re-recorded, and they didn't
    want anyone to undermine the buying power of their newest signing.  There
    are publishing and copyright issues that Epic felt the need to protect, 
and
    unfortunately that screwed the general buying public (in the USA, at 
least)
    out of this excellent collection of songs."

     This, combined with other tidbits that I had heard about the EP, led
    me to the understandable conclusion that it was more of a bootleg than an
    official release.

     I trust that all made sense.

*the definition of a bootleg, or to bootleg is to produce, reproduce or 
distribute illicitly or without authorization*
ok, so i got a few questions along the bootleg deal... why would a bootleg be 
so well done... maybe it is just me, and my naieve perception of bootlegged 
items, but i seriously doubt that a bootlegged would be so well put 
together... if you listen to it, you can tell that it is of amazing quality, 
and for something like that to be a bootleg, well then, some one would have 
had to have janked stuff from a studio to get something produced that well, 
and even then, there would have been more tracks that were on the forthcoming 
cd... and i don't know when you joined this list, so that could answer my 
question, but if you were on the list at the time it came out, you would have 
understood that it was an official release... considering people were 
creating a hooha about getting it in certain record stores and contacting 
labels and whatnot... the idiot on ebay selling ruxx's mp3's burnt onto a cd 
was in fact selling bootleg shit. not only was it a bootleg in regards to him 
not being authorized by ruxx to sell his shit, he wasn't authroized by either 
epic or up! to sell the mp3's off of the website.   ok, so no legitimate 
record company is going to distribute a bootleg like "Night on the Sun"... 
espically when there is a much larger company that "owns" the band whose 
bootleg they are distributing... it is asking for major trouble.. if we now 
look at the track listing of the new cd (that a listboy got, which WAS a 
bootleg) you will notice that it has, i believe, 2 songs on it that were on 
the japanese ep, correct me if i am wrong.   wouldn't epic or rebel beat or k 
or even up! who distributes both labels actually mention that it was in fact 
something more of a bootleg?  perhaps they may try to pull some propaganda 
type bullshit and skirt around the fact that they did print and distribute 
*gasp* a bootleg... but i'm sure a company like epic would be dick enough to 
make them state that they distributed bootlegged material, and put a dick in 
their respective asses until they said something along the lines that they 
let people buy bootleged cds.  anyway, i think that we are arguing a futile 
point and i just wasted too many minutes of my life doing this... when the 
monsters fight the fluffy bunnies, the bunnies always win (even though they 
can't read..).  smooches...


love and goth dusting powder,


leighcifer

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