ummm... well I didn't exactly mean that they "discourage" it... Pavement is
my favorite band so I don't like to put them down, but the way SM likes to
stand there singing, with his hands on his hips... I mean, he's just sort of
a lazy performer. Bob/Mark/Westy all have a great time, but Spiral and SM
just never seem totally "into" it and that sort of rubs off on the crowd. Of
course, any time they decide to whip out "Conduit For Sale"/"Two
States"/"Stereo"/etc. it's a different story.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MMouse]: RE: moshing/pogoing/dancing
>
> Wait a second--the last Pavement show that I saw at Alice Cooper's
> was rocking. I don't get the impression that Malkmus discourages
> enjoying the beautiful sound at all
>
>
> On Wed, 24 May 2000, George Booze wrote:
>
> > Right on. I grew sick of those jaded indie-rock hipsters who just stand
> > there at shows long ago, and at this point I'm just like "fuck em'". If
you
> > want to watch a concert, stay home and watch a tape, but if you want to
> > experience a band, GO to a concert. I don't like moshing any more than
the
> > next person, but pogoing, dancing, "feeling" the music (as hippy-ish as
that
> > may sound) is the ONLY way to get the most out of a concert. Try it
> > sometime. Trust me, it's okay to get excited. You SHOULD get excited.
You
> > should go fucking nuts. You must sing along as loud as possible. You
might
> > get dirty looks from some of the indier-than-thou types, but the band
feeds
> > on that sort of energy. Bands ALWAYS play better at shows where the
audience
> > is showing a lot of love and energy. It's unfortunate that bands like
> > Sebadoh and Pavement have sort of cultivated this "I don't give a shit"
> > attitude at concerts (I saw Lou Barlow a couple months ago and he was
> > actually telling audience members to "shut the fuck up"), but luckily we
> > have bands now (MM, The Dismemberment Plan, Les Savy Fav, Enon, etc...)
that
> > are "speaking out" and trying to bring some excitement back to the
> > indie-rock show.
> >
> > Resistance is futile.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bjorn Warloe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:15 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [MMouse]:
> >
> >
> > Ok I have had about enough of the moshing comments. I have been going
> > to mouse shows in the northwest for quite some time now. I have seen
> > them play 10 or 11 times and never once was anyone moshing. I say
> > this as a person who has been in the pit at ministry, kmfdm, nine inch
> > nails, and most violent of all the sweaty nipples reunion show last
> > month. People pogo at the mouse, some people might even bump into
> > each other at the mouse but no one, I repeat no one is moshing at the
> > mouse. There is usually a small group of people who move around in the
> > front, these people are not particularly violent, so why the problem.
> > The problem here is girls who come to the show in flip flop sandals and
> > stand right down in the front then get pissed because someone fucking
> > moved and stood on my toe. It is one thing that everyone stands still
> > and listens intently at a cat power show but this is modest mouse.
> > People are going to feel the beat of a song like breakthrough or tundra/
> > desert and they are going to move around, so dress appropriately.
> > If you simply can not wear a real pair of shoes to the show there is
> > another option. Stand out side the 10 foot by 10 foot area where people
> > are pogoing. Most of the crowd is just standing there, so if you don't
> > want to be near a pogo artist then don't stand right in front of the
> > stage. I will be at the Eugene show and both Seattle Shows and I will
> > be moving my body about, if you tell me to stop and start threatening
> > me like the bastard at the last frank black show I went to then I will
> > go out of my way to begin moshing in your direction. If you just let
> > me enjoy the show you probably won't even know I am there.
> >
> > declan galt
> >
>
>
