<I wouldn't want to hang out with anyone that would make it harder on me
for my father's choice to suck dick>

hahahaha, no offense, but that quote sounds like something out of the movie
"hapiness".  either way that was a great post, and eventhough i dont have
personal experience, i agree with you completely.

~blake

----- Original Message -----
From: Toni Rickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 7:15 AM
Subject: [MMouse]: gays having kids-specifically directed towards amy


> I've really tried to keep my mouth shut about this, but, Amy, you are so
> ignorant.  And I'm not saying stupid, I'm saying uninformed.  I'm not
going
> to insult you, but let's just say that I usually don't bother reading your
> posts, but after Leigh's response, I was curious.  My dad is gay.
Granted,
> he didn't decide he was gay until I was 6 months old, but he's gay
> nonetheless.  And I'm glad.  My mom also had girlfriends through most of
my
> adolescence, and it bothered me a little, but I accepted it.  I had a
> slumber party for my 10th birthday with all the girls from school there.
> Later, it turned out that one of the girls' mom's knew my dad from a long
> time ago and told her that she couldn't go to my house anymore b/c he was
> gay.  I went to a pentecostal school, if that tells you anything.  Well,
she
> went to school and told everyone, then they all started prank calling my
> house and leaving extremely mean messages on the machine.  My dad hid all
> this from me, but the kids at school teased me a little.  I thought
nothing
> of it.  I knew that he had always had male "roommates", and I loved them
> almost as much as him.  He finally took me to fly kites one day and set me
> down and explained to me how he was.  He was really worried that I
wouldn't
> love him anymore, but I reacted like, "yeah, and so?"  When my mom started
> having girlfriends, everyone would tease me, as this was jr. high, and
kids
> are a little meaner by then.  I was angry towards her for many other
> reasons, so her sexual orientation didn't bother me too much.  Maybe just
a
> little. I wasn't living with her a lot of the time, so it didn't really
> affect me as much as my dad. Through high school, my dad worried
constantly
> about what my friends would say.  He always told me not to tell anyone,
and
> he freaked when I did.  And I always did.  I was proud of him for having
the
> courage to be who he was, and it inspired me to be who I am, rather than
> worry about what others thought I should be.  I love his friends, and they
> love me.  My friends loved him and his friends, even though none of them
had
> ever known gay people and were wary at first.  When, I went to college, he
> again told me not to tell anyone.  That it would be harder for me.
Bullshit.
>   I wouldn't want to hang out with anyone that would make it harder on me
> for my father's choice to suck dick.  And I was open with my friends from
> the beginning.  Anyway, my point is this.  Gays have a total right to have
> children, and I encourage them more than anyone.  I was brought up to be
> completely accepting of any type of person.  And I learned, at an early
age,
> the importance of being who you are and making yourself happy.  I also saw
a
> lot of the repression and aggression towards people for choosing to do so,
> by people who were scared of the idea of being completely honest with
> oneself and going against what the majority thought of as normal.  I also
> saw how overlooked AIDS was for a long time b/c it affected gays more than
> straights.  I had known many of my dad's friends die when I was growing
up,
> and I would hear stories of many more that I had never met.  My dad's long
> time lover died of the disease, when I was 11, and my dad contracted it
> (he's still alive and kicking, though).  Yet it was the early 90s before
the
> epidemic starting getting attention.  After straight people started dying.
> It all definitely made me more aware of what needs to change in our
society,
> and I've tried to do my part in changing people's views.  That's all I can
> do.  But, don't ever say that these people don't have a right to have
kids.
> If a parent communicates well enough with their child, walking in on their
> dad sticking it in some guys ass, is about as odd as them walking in on
> their dad sticking it to their mom.  That's the way it should be.  There
> should be no differentiation.  People love who they love, and you should
be
> happy for them for loving rather than hating. Either scenerio could do
> damage to a kid, so why are you making it seem wrong and unhealthy for men
> to have sex with each other if you HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GAYS?  I love the
> way I was brought up, and it's made me a much better person than many of
> those around me.  I wish everyone could experience it and see it through
> their own eyes, so they could fully understand what I'm having a hard time
> conveying.  I am completely offended by your statement that gay people
> should never have kids.  Anyway, I hope I got my point across.  It's
pretty
> early, and I didn't get enough sleep, so my head is pretty cloudy.
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