There was a thread over a month ago about sessions and cookies and how much you can trust them... well, if anyone is keeping track you can count the white house out of the cookie-users... they just found out what cookies are. http://www.pub.whitehouse.gov/uri-res/I2R?um:pdi://oma.eop.gov.us/2000/6/21/17.text.1 Horribly off-topicly yours, Jay Jacobs