I have tried using both Apache::File->new and a simple open on some flat files I have in order to iterate over them one line at a time with <FILE> and either way I don't reliably get all the data from the files. AFAICT when it _does_ mess up it always returns only the first line of the file. I've tried some tests under plain perl and have not been able to recreate the behavior so I suspect it's something to do with running under mod_perl, not that I think there's a bug, I imagine I'm doing something stupid. Doing multiple "reloads" with the browser will show all data several times and then just one line and then all again and so on but not in any repeatable pattern of counts. I know for certain that there are no other programs/users doing anything to the files during any of this and the web site is very, dare I say extremely, lightly loaded. I looked at FAQs and mailing list archives and didn't notice anything like this. Thanks for any help. Derric L. Tubbs CITIS Administrator Boeing - Fort Walton Beach, Florida [EMAIL PROTECTED] (850)302-4494