Here is another one. You should use Apache::Request instead, but just in case you still use CGI.pm (me too :) as usuals comments are welcome: C<CGI.pm> is a big module that by default postpones the compilation of its methods until they are actually needed, thus making it possible to use it under slow mod_cgi handler without adding a big overhead. That's not what we want under mod_perl and if you use C<CGI.pm> you should precompile the methods that you are going to use at the server startup in addition to preloading of the module. Use the compile method for that: use CGI; CGI->compile(':all'); where you should replace the tag group C<:all> with the real tags and group tags that you are going to use if you want to optimize the memory usage. We are going to compare the shared memory foot print by using the script which is back compatible with mod_cgi. You will see that you can improve performance of this kind of scripts as well, but if you really want a fast code think about porting it to use C<Apache::Request> for CGI interface and some other module for HTML generation. So here is the C<Apache::Registry> script that we are going to use to make the comparison: preload_cgi_pm.pl ----------------- use strict; use CGI (); use GTop (); my $q = new CGI; print $q->header('text/plain'); print join "\n", map {"$_ => ".$q->param($_) } $q->param; print "\n"; my $proc_mem = GTop->new->proc_mem($$); my $size = $proc_mem->size; my $share = $proc_mem->share; my $diff = $size - $share; printf "%8s %8s %8s\n", qw(Size Shared Diff); printf "%8d %8d %8d (bytes)\n",$size,$share,$diff; The script initializes the C<CGI> object, sends HTTP header and then print all the arguments and values that were passed to the script if at all. At the end as usual we print the memory usage. As usual we are going to use a single child process, therefore we will use this setting in I<httpd.conf>: MinSpareServers 1 MaxSpareServers 1 StartServers 1 MaxClients 1 MaxRequestsPerChild 100 We are going to run memory benchmarks on three different versions of the I<startup.pl> file. We always preload this module: use Gtop(); =over =item option 1 Leave the file unmodified. =item option 2 Preload C<CGI.pm>: use CGI (); =item option 3 Preload C<CGI.pm> and pre-compile the methods that we are going to use in the script: use CGI (); CGI->compile(qw(header param)); =back The server was restarted before each new test. So here are the results of the five tests that were conducted, sorted by the I<Diff> column: =over =item 1 After the first request: Version Size Shared Diff Test type -------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 3321856 2146304 1175552 not preloaded 2 3321856 2326528 995328 preloaded 3 3244032 2465792 778240 preloaded & methods+compiled =item 2 After the second request (all the subsequent request showed the same results): Version Size Shared Diff Test type -------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 3325952 2134016 1191936 not preloaded 2 3325952 2314240 1011712 preloaded 3 3248128 2445312 802816 preloaded & methods+compiled =back The first version shows the results of the script execution when C<CGI.pm> wasn't preloaded. The second version with module preloaded. The third when it's both preloaded and the methods that are going to be used are precompiled at the server startup. By looking at the version one of the second table we can conclude that, preloading adds about 20K of shared size. As we have mention at the beginning of this section that's how C<CGI.pm> was implemented--to reduce the load overhead. Which means that preloading CGI is almost change a thing. But if we compare the second and the third versions we will see a very significant difference of 207K (1011712-802816), and we have used only a few methods (the I<header> method loads a few more method transparently for a user). Imagine how much memory we are going to save if we are going to precompile all the methods that we are using in other scripts that use C<CGI.pm> and do a little bit more than the script that we have used in the test. But even in our very simple case using the same formula, what do we see? (assuming that we have 256MB dedicated for mod_perl) RAM - largest_shared_size N_of Procs = ------------------------- Diff 268435456 - 2134016 (ver 1) N = ------------------- = 223 1191936 268435456 - 2445312 (ver 3) N = ------------------- = 331 802816 If we preload C<CGI.pm> and precompile a few methods that we use in the test script, we can have 50% more child processes than when we don't preload and precompile the methods that we are going to use. META: I've heard that the 3.x generation will be less bloated, so probably I'll have to rerun this using the new version. _____________________________________________________________________ Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://perl.org http://stason.org/TULARC http://singlesheaven.com http://perlmonth.com http://sourcegarden.org