Aaron Johnson wrote:
>
> If what you are saying is that current EmbPerl code would be able to run
> almost unchanged under ASP that would be very interesting, but presently
> my biggest issues with Apache::ASP are:
>
> - Doesn't "help" with any HTML.
>
I think I know what you mean, and I'm not sure that's its worth
developing those things, is this a big priority?
Embperl:
<table>
<tr bgcolor="[+ $row % 2?'gray':'white' +]">
<td align="center"><font size="+1">[+ $multi[$row][$col] +]</font></td>
</tr>
</table>
VS.
ASP:
<table>
<% for my $row (0..$#multi) { %>
<tr bgcolor="<%= $row % 2 ? 'gray' : 'white' %>">
<% for my $col (0..$#array) { %>
<td align="center"><font size="+1"><%= $multi[$row][$col] %></font></td>
<% } %>
</tr>
<% } %>
</table>
> - QueryString and Form from the Response are separate, this makes a
> programming headache if you are used to Embperl or if you are not sure
> what type of input is coming in for some reason.
That's the way the API is, I could create a config to merge them,
but its always seemed as easy to
sub Script_OnStart {
$Form = { %{$Request->{Form}}, %{$Request->{QueryString} };
}
does this need a config?
> Shouldn't they just be the same information?
> Is there a need to keep them separate?
Its the ASP API. I just ported it.
> - Slow processing time, on the Hello World test it is one of the slower
> ones. EmbPerl 2.0 is supposed to be even faster then the present
> version.
>
Huh? From http://www.chamas.com/bench/hello.tar.gz, so you
can run it yourself ...
hello]# ./bench.pl -version -time=15 ASP Embperl
Test Name Test File Hits/sec Total Hits Total Time sec/Hits
Bytes/Hit
------------ ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
----------
Apache::ASP v2.09 2000 h2000.asp 229.1 3444 hits 15.03 sec 0.004365
28997 byte
HTML::Embperl v2.0a18 2000 h2000.epl 248.7 3732 hits 15.01 sec 0.004022
28809 byte
Apache::ASP v2.09 hello.asp 395.1 5933 hits 15.02 sec 0.002531
241 bytes
HTML::Embperl v2.0a18 hello.epl 461.4 6933 hits 15.03 sec 0.002167
219 bytes
Apache Server Header Tokens
---------------------------
(Unix)
Apache/1.3.14
OpenSSL/0.9.6
PHP/4.0.3pl1
mod_perl/1.24
mod_ssl/2.7.1
PERL Version: 5.00503
Operating System: Linux 2.2.14-5.0smp (root@porky) (gcc egcs-2.91.66) #1 2CPU [gate]
Sorry, I can't get it much faster on hello world, Embperl is written
in C, Apache::ASP in perl. But check out the h2000 tests, much more
representative of real world templates, not just startup time.
> - Poor error reporting. This seems to be possibly a resurfaced bug, but
> when use strict is turned on ( not the global one, but on a per page
> level ) when testing a page for compliance it gives no intelligent error
> message as to where the problem might be. I see in the docs where this
> has been addressed (fixed) before.
I haven't seen this in a while, give me a test script & I'll fix it.
> - No automatic variable clean up. I think EmbPerl runs each page as its
> own package to keep things "clean" is that possible under Apache::ASP?
>
ASP does have a UniquePackages feature that could possibly make use
of this garbage collection, but then you are not in the same package
as global.asa where you get to init easy to use globals & such,
its a trade off.
To do things really cleanly, keep one global hash for per
process data, and then undef it in Script_OnEnd. The rest
should be caught by the UseStrict config.
> - No auto form fillin. I know this has been discussed, I have even made
> crude code that allows it.
>
I would like to develop this too. Thanks for your feedback.
So I take it you're not particularly interested in the
compile time feature additions? :)
--Josh
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