At 15:29 30/01/2001 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >It would be nice to see "xml marshalling" (as they call it) integrated >into an existing Perl object-relational framework like Tangram. OTOH, >Tangram isn't very well optimized for mod_perl work in general--currently >the object cache must be completely flushed after each request, etc. That is only half true. When running 5.6 (ie when you have weakrefs) Tangram takes advantage of it to avoid circular refs. Depending on the number of distinct objects that you load it could still be a good idea to $storage->unload in your cleanup handler, but that wouldn't necessarily be the general case. And anyway, when I mention XML I'm talking about Tangram 2. I haven't tested it yet, but I'll soon have a chance to. I'll probably report to the modperl list when this happens. A number of things have changed there. I've also found Jean-Louis Leroy to be very supportive, he even came to meet me to ask me questions about what modperl users of Tangram needed (if you have a list of issues, pass it on to me, I'll summarize and discuss it with him). I'd expect Tangram to move forward quite fast in the times to come. >I think an open-source mod_perl-oriented O/R system with XML support would >be extremely useful. I would be interesting in hearing opinions on whether >extending Tangram and its ilk is viable. Either way, I will probably look >into working on this in the near future, let me know if you're interested. Extending Tangram is viable. It will become even more so shortly. I'm definitely interested if you decide to work on this. -- robin b. Smoking is one of the leading causes of statistics.