> From: Jesse Erlbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 06 June 2002 23:21
> To: 'Jeff'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> All in all, the additions that led to MVP do not seem particularly
>> applicable to web development - it seems to me that a simplified MVC 
>> may work better here. Do others concur?
>
> YES!  I would agree whole-heartedly.  As I said in my first message on

> this thread, a pattern is not a panacea.  Practical, useful solutions 
> are rarely "academically correct".
>
> Let's not get caught up in "pattern-for-pattern's sake" thinking here.
If
> an aspect of someone else's idea (and that's all patterns like MVC are
--
> someone else's idea!), then TOSS IT!  Jettison.  Use what works and
throw
> out the rest.

Jesse, I see your assertions, and may agree with them, but I am
interested to know specifically WHY you think MVC might be more
appropriate than MVP, and what parts of MVP are actually [!]cool-for-web
concepts.

Call me old fashioned, but when I see that a large community of folks
have obviously invested much thought and effort into the original
Smalltalk MVC and then into MVP. I am reluctant to throw out the baby
until I am sure that the water is cold!

I too like a 'use what works' approach, but tempered with a bit of
'softly slowly lookee feelee', especially when it comes to fundamental
design and approach 8-)

Regards
Jeff


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