I don't say too much about other programming languages, but I find that
people will use whatever they are most comfortable with............. It
really comes down to preference, I enjoy perl and don't really like php, but
thats just me.

-jordan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cory 'G' Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Perl vs. PHP..... but where is mod_perl?


> Hi,
>
> I am always happy to join into some PHP bashing. :)  I feel the same way
as
> you. I even tried to like PHP for a while. What really bugs me is the
> situation that I learned about when I first came to work at this job. They
> needed to use PHP to do a POST and the programmer here had chosen CURL.
But
> he didn't have any possible way to use CURL without the admin at the
> hosting company recompileing PHP to be able to use it. Sure, it might not
> be the easiest thing in the world to do, but I
> have used LWP on local /home/user/lib directories even a local user CPAN
> install isn't all that hard. And then wow! You have the power of a root
guy
> all to yourself.
>
> But the other issue I think has more to do with users than the PHP lang
> itself.  It seems like there are LOTS of scripts and comercial products
> written in PHP, most of the ones I have seen make use of the horrible
> including of files all over the place. It is a total nightmare to change
or
> debug code like that. I know the guy who was here before me did that, and
> he had good intentions, but it ended up just making a bigger mess than if
> he had just used one big PHP script.
>
>
> Eric
>
> At 12:23 PM 2002-10-18 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >I thought that was rather odd as well. I started in on PHP for a bit
> >during the summer and eventually dropped it after discovering that OO-PHP
> >is deprecated by those Zend folks (supposedly it's "slow" and there are
no
> >destructor methods). I also didn't want to deal with their useless use of
> >sigils and the weird namespacing. If you completely left CPAN out of the
> >picture then just as a language and syntax it isn't all that nice anyway.
> >*shrugs* I've yet to understand what the appeal is.
> >
> >Josh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Cory 'G' Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >10/18/2002 11:37 AM
> >
> >
> >         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        Re: [OT] Perl vs. PHP..... but where is
mod_perl?
> >
> >
> >Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> > > Dzuy> What do you expect from (PHP) amateurs?  Apparently Perl is too
> > > Dzuy> complicated for them to comprehend,
> > > Dzuy> never mind mod_perl.
> > >
> > > And according to my thread at use.perl
> > > <http://use.perl.org/~merlyn/journal/8445>, the article just got
pulled!
> >
> >The article says PHP is syntactically similar to C++.  What PHP are they
> >using?  I picked up PHP in no time because it was nearly indentical to
> >Perl.  Sure, it's similar to C and C++, but, uhmm, $variable?  Also
> >mentions Perl has had OO bolted on.  How do they view PHP's OO?  I'm not
> >bashing PHP, quite the contrary.  But damn, that's just an ignorant
> >article.  I do wonder what sparked them pulling it out.
> >
> >--
> >Cory 'G' Watson
>

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