On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 10:55, Frank Wiles wrote: > I agree mod_perl needs more PR. I think we've got a great community > of people to help on the mailing list, tons of great documentation, > but lack in several areas: > > 1) PR announcements in general (When is the last time you saw mod_perl > in the press?) > 2) Online and magazine articles about mod_perl > 3) HOWTOs on specific subjects > 4) Small application examples with developer commentary.
These are really two different things. The first two are more about getting the word out while the second two are about helping people with practical coding issues. We are well-equipped to handle the second two right here, but the first two might require some help from other groups. In particular, I would say it's a mistake to think that mod_perl specifically needs PR. There is no important difference between promoting mod_perl and promoting Perl in general. That's why I think this sort of thing should be pursued through The Perl Foundation, rather than as some sort of separate splinter group. > What I'm thinking about is much like Perrin's great article about > etoys.com, only with full working code and copious amounts of > commentary about it. Thanks. I have a couple more articles in the pipeline about handling specific issues, but not a comprehensive code example. The trouble is that writing that kind of thing is generally too much work for just an article. If someone asked me for an example app to look at today, I would point them at Krang (http://krang.sourceforge.net/). It is a complete working application, not a toy or demo, and the code is well-organized and takes advantage of many great CPAN modules. It uses a model-view-controller design, and follows best practices for testing, portability, etc. The only downside is that real applications are fairly complex, and sometimes that makes it harder to learn from them. No one has done a better job of demonstrating the basic concepts in a short article than Kake, with her "How to Avoid Writing Code" story: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/07/15/nocode.html > Since many of us will be in Portland for OSCON, maybe we should get > together in person to discuss mod_perl PR in more detail? Yes, but maybe we should be more inclusive, like organizing a Perl PR BOF. That way we can keep the mod_perl BOF free for fun tech talk. - Perrin -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html