This was kinda funny. 

Security is a practice, not a feature.

-Pratik

On 9/13/05, JupiterHost.Net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> 
> > Hmm, sorry. I was just trying to think to something that might make perl
> > more used than PHP.
> 
> - PHP is crap and a half to admin
> - Its huge and clunky
> - PHP based systems are more prone attack since PHP relies to much oin
> assumptions ("Oh its quoting it all for me, so I can do SQL and system
> commends without checking" so says the coder you mention below :))
> 
> > The scope of advocacy is not to make perl better, but to make it be used by
> > more programmers, and most programmers are not super programmers which are
> > able to create an operating system, but just coders that like a language
> > which is easy to learn, use and maintain.
> >
> > I don't know why some people are so angry when showing them that perl has
> > many disadvantages. If the disadvantages are shown, they can be seen and
> > fixed.
> 
> Another difference:
>   "disadvantages" shown for any language can burn the ego a bit :)
> realistically though PHP has waaaaaay more disadvnatages.
> 
> For instance if you try to secure your php.ini by dusabling functions,
> doing safe mode etc etc and you want PHP to run as the user so you use
> PHPSuExec like a good lad the evil user goes touch ~/public_html/php.ini
> 
> and *poof* your php.ini is overridden and they can turn off anything
> they like. This is not considered a bug but a feature!! Which makes sens
> because that allows the user to define custom settings like .htaccess
> does *but* you can override 100% anything and the documentation on how
> to limit it buried deep in some PHP luser's underwear.
> 
> PHP is cute and all but in a perfect world it'd be nonexistant. I'mnot
> just saying that Pelr is the best, use *anything* you like Python, Ruby,
> C, whatever just so its not PHP :)
> 
> When I look over job applications and I see PHP experience I immediatley
>   think "NEXT" because PHP's paradigm results in cluseless coders and
> clueless coders = bad security + lots of other things...
> 


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