On Aug 12, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:
What are you using to measure this on each ?

ok.   this is f'd up

i tried Gtop on my production box (FreeBSD 6)- the children were 16mb

meanwhile,  top is showing me this:
www 97088 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97089 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97092 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.01 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97098 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97099 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97101 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97105 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97107 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97109 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97112 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.01 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97119 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97120 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97122 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd www 97126 0.0 25.3 260548 254976 ?? I 12:42AM 0:00.02 / usr/local/sbin/httpd

i've somehow gone from 50mb processes to  250MB ones
also, apparently, i have roughly base 300% memory (not base 100% like.. the universe )

i tried running
        top -Uwww

I'm seeing multiple processes with
        255M SIZE
        249M RES

so i'm just  going to  ask  this instead

        1)  what is typical of a webapp under mod_perl  in terms of memory ?
        2)  how the hell do you measure that memory, under osx and freebsd ?

everything i'm using to measure memory is giving me DRASTICALLY different numbers.

the custom framework I wrote isn't crazy big - its 120k of perl that really just wraps Petal, Rose, and provides extensibility to just jet them and choose another component. i'd say 30% of the overhead in it is debugging calls, and Apache::Status shows it as about 1.3mb of compiled code. the business object of the webapp is *maybe* 300k of perl and petal documents. so maybe 2mb of perl?


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