Raymond Wan wrote:
>I should point out that one could be educated without a MS or a PhD. 
>One could also be uneducated with a MS and/or a PhD.  It depends on
>one's quality of education and their self-motivation in RTFM.  But I
>know that Ronald is saying it casually, just like the expression "being
>a rocket scientist" which is probably an out-dated expression now.

You are absolutely right on this. I was trying to say MS or PHD should have 
that kind of training in school...but people definitely can also gain that kind 
of training from real job experience without any MS or PHD...
 
Thanks
Ron

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From: Raymond Wan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 2/29/2008 9:36 PM
To: Colin Wetherbee
Cc: Ronald Dai.; modperl@perl.apache.org
Subject: Re: return DECLINED or OK? [off-topic]




Colin Wetherbee wrote:
> Ronald Dai. wrote:
>> Actually RTFM would not be a problem for people from academic
>> background (meaning MS or PHD educated) at all since they have to do
>> it all the time....but for people with more team work background
>> these days, it might not be politically very correct...
>
> I disagree.  Granted, I have a master's degree.


I should point out that one could be educated without a MS or a PhD. 
One could also be uneducated with a MS and/or a PhD.  It depends on
one's quality of education and their self-motivation in RTFM.  But I
know that Ronald is saying it casually, just like the expression "being
a rocket scientist" which is probably an out-dated expression now.


> But, let's say, as very nearly happened on another mailing list
> yesterday, someone installs database software and can't figure out how
> to create a database.  I say go look at the manual and here's the
> specific URL that covers creating new databases.  Now, that person
> knows where to look for information about creating a database, *and*
> that person also knows where to look for answers to future simple
> questions.


I totally agree with this and I think that one has to know the material
before working as a group.  Some university courses are so caught up in
the terminology like "team work", they seem to jump a step.

Just like it would be good to learn how to add before you can use a
calculator.  Yes, everyone nowadays uses a calculator -- it is in high
school curriculum now and it is also the "real world" -- but strange to
focus on the calculator if someone does not even know how to do the
operations that a calculator does...

Ray




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