On 4/23/2013 3:27 PM, Ryan Perry wrote:



On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Jim Albert <j...@netrition.com
<mailto:j...@netrition.com>> wrote:

    On 4/23/2013 2:33 PM, Ryan Perry wrote:




        On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Jim Albert <j...@netrition.com
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        <mailto:j...@netrition.com <mailto:j...@netrition.com>>> wrote:

             On 4/23/2013 1:36 PM, Ryan Perry wrote:




                 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Jim Albert
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        <mailto:j...@netrition.com <mailto:j...@netrition.com>>>> wrote:

                      On 4/23/2013 1:08 PM, Ryan Perry wrote:

                          I've considered doing it daily via cron, but
        if there's
                 a way to
                          do when
                          I hit this error I'd prefer that.


                          On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Jim Albert
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        <mailto:j...@netrition.com <mailto:j...@netrition.com>>>>> wrote:

                               On 4/23/2013 11:49 AM, Ryan Perry wrote:

                                   I've been plagued by some bug that
        makes a
                 call to LWP
                          stop working:
                                   "Can't connect to 192.168.0.222 (Bad
        hostname)"

                                   I haven't been able to figure out
        why, but a
                 simple httpd
                                   restart fixes
                                   it for a day or 2.

                                   Since I can't figure out a real fix, I'm
                 wondering if
                          there is a
                                   way for
                                   me to automatically restart httpd
        whenever the bug
                          hits.  Maybe
                                   whenever
                                   it appears in the httpd-error.log?
          What are
                 my options?


                               Without more to go on to the actual cause
        of the
                 problem...

                               Restarting apache daily isn't a bad idea in
                 general if even
                          just a
                               graceful restart.
                               kill -USR1 `cat /var/run/httpd.pid`
                               which I believe should be safe any time
        of day.

                               If a complete restart, maybe early
        morning off hours
                          assuming your
                               server requires a high degree of
        availability?

                               Jim


                      Try to remember not to top-post, please. It makes
        it hard
                 for others
                      to read the thread.

                      I don't know, but it kind of has a DNS feel to it,
                 possibly. Nothing
                      concrete to go on, just past experience when I see
        network
                 and I
                      know the network is fine... I think DNS. Maybe reverse
                 resolution of
                      your private IP address space assuming your
        requests are
                 being made
                      to/from private addresses? That's really just a
        shot in the
                 dark
                      because we don't have much to go on. I'd start
        thinking
                 network and
                      DNS, put in some debug, see what if anything is
        timing out.

                      Jim


                 Sorry about the top post.

                 I've done the debugging on DNS.  If it try changing the
                 IP/hostname I
                 still get the error.  I think it's per-process though.
          Once it
                 starts
                 to happen it's intermittent and gets worse, making me think
                 depending
                 which process I hit it will work or not until all
        processes are
                 affected.

                 This is on FreeBSD using a jailed (virtualized) host.
          I read about
                 apache/jails on OpenBSD having a config issue with DNS
        but it seemed
                 different than this.

                 It only seems to affect httpd, I can log in and ping
        from the server
                 just fine.


             Also, please reply to the list, not personal email addresses so
             everyone else gets the benefit of the thread, and maybe you
        get a
             better answer from someone other than me. :)

             I'm not so sure you've eliminated DNS, yet.

             What if from 192.168.0.222 you:
             dig -x 192.168.0.x

             where 192.168.0.x is the IP addressing making the connection to
             192.168.0.222

             Do you have reverse resolvers for your private address
        space or are
             the requests handled by the top level root servers?

             Who is answering for that reverse resolution request?
             dig -x 192.168.0.x
             Is it your resolver or a root level like prisoner.iana.org
        <http://prisoner.iana.org>
             <http://prisoner.iana.org>


             Jim


        Interesting, but it seems hard to believe that would be it.  I don't
        have any other suspects though...


        ; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P3 <<>> -x 192.168.0.200
        ;; global options: +cmd
        ;; Got answer:
        ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 20209
        ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1,
        ADDITIONAL: 0

        ;; QUESTION SECTION:
        ;200.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa.__INPTR

        ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
        168.192.in-addr.arpa.__10800INSOAlocalhost. nobody.invalid. 1
        3600 1200

        604800 10800

        ;; Query time: 6 msec
        ;; SERVER: 4.2.2.1#53(4.2.2.1)
        ;; WHEN: Tue Apr 23 18:28:37 2013
        ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 103

    You're using a public resolver... 4.2.2.1
    I'm not saying that's your problem, but I've had problems in the
    past where connections were slow or timed out doing a reverse lookup
    of my private address space. The problem went away after configuring
    my own resolvers to handle reverse lookups on my private address space.

    If you want to continue to use 4.2.2.1 or any public resolver as
    your resolver, that's not an option.

    If you have your own resolvers, this might help:
    http://www.sendmail.com/sm/__open_source/tips/private_dns/
    <http://www.sendmail.com/sm/open_source/tips/private_dns/>

    Again... I'm still kind of shooting in the dark, so my confidence
    level on where I'm going with this is not high.

    You really should put some debug in or maybe a packet trace... is
    your server actually getting the request is where I would start.

    Does your ISP provide a resolver? Is there a reason you want to use
    4.2.2.1 rather than your ISP's or your own or maybe at least
    Google's at 8.8.8.8?

    Jim


I do want to continue using it.  4.2.2.1 is L3's server.  8.8.8.8 is
acutally my secondary.  If it were actually the DNS server it would
affect more than just apache, right?

I'd be interested in putting in some debug code, but I don't know where.
  I'm just now reading about LWP::Debug.

That would depend on what processes attempt a reverse resolution. Some might do it simply for logging purposes. That was my problem before I set up reverse resolution of my private address space.

Again this is all supposition.

Jim


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