> Date: Wed, 15-Mar-2000 15:43:37 GMT
> From: chris brudzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Rotten Apple (was U.S. vs U.K.)
>
>
> sorry i ruffled your feathers by calling the rest of america a cultural
> wasteland. i've been to san fransisco and the west coast in general and
> all i have to say is that the collective i.q. isn't much larger than my
> age, and people are just plain lazy. too much sun i suspect - warped
> their brains of basic intelligence and ambition. that was, however, my
> own experience.
Didn't ruffle my feathers. You've been to San Francisco huh? That's how
you know how "warm" it is huh? Well, it is RARELY warm here. Thinking of LA
perhaps?
This sort of discredits any opinions you may have if this basic fact escapes
you.
It is the first way to spot a tourist in SF...standing there wearing shorts and
shivering.
funny that you picked the aspect out of my post that was the most tongue
> and cheek. i mean how can you actually take the line "new york city is
> the center of the universe..." seriously? it was meant to be taken with
> a grain of salt and was said in jest.
Oh, I knew you were out to just cause a stir, but I also know that you meant
every word. Just add a few superlatives to feign a joke....
> but, seriously, you couldn't actually be trying to compare the
> importance culturally and historically of san fransisco to new york
> could you? please sit down young man. you're way out of your league.
He says he was joking, and then repeats the exact thing as his opinion...
I wasn't comparing the two, I just said which I prefer. Personally I don't give
a shit what you think about SF. I hope you continue to consider it a
"cultural wasteland". There are already enough people from all over the world
moving here ( and not just for dot com jobs either) that the rent is
skyrocketing. We know we got a good thing going, and certainly don't
want anymore boneheads like you.
Do you know how tiresome and cliche the New York attitude is to everyone
else? Sit down yourself Tony, you bore the hell out of me.
Dan
>
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:06:51 -0800
> From: John Drefahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Enough Rotten Apples
>
John gives us the lowdown on the SF scene...
>
> The Social scene..
> San Francisco has been called "America's Biggest Small Town" because
> the fact of the matter is that people run into people all the time.
> Why? Because everyone lives in the same place and people tend to do
> things outside.. or use public transportation. The bars and night
> clubs are all on the same streets it seems.. and more or less.. you
> just become a bit more visable.. Most of the people who live in SF
> are either left over hippies, wanna be hippies, trustafarians,
> ravers, gay people, really gay people, really really really gay
> people, softball lesbians, punk rockers, and your average wanna be
> bohemian.. and now the new breed.. Idiot web people.
"Everyone lives in the same place"? Explain. Neither myself nor any of
my friends fit any of your categories. Hmmmmm.....
Jesus, you're an idiot. "most of the people that live in SF are leftover
hippies"? Are you sure you lived here? Hippies are a rare bird outside of the
Upper Haight and even those are of the questionable nouveau variety.
You're tossing out cliches like they're going out of style.
Then again, you thought Popscene was where its at...
> SF has a problem.. It grasps on the subcultures and makes a profit
> off them.. its really hard to be an individual in SF.. Now that
> sounds absolutely ridiculous I know.. but when you live in a city
> that promote being a freak.. and an individual.. you have way to many
> people trying to be individuals and it waters down the broth.. you
> know what I am saying..
Actually NO, I don't have a clue what you're saying Are you saying that you had
trouble "being an individual" here? Were you "not as freaky" as you were in
your
hometown? Did people ignore you? You said that SF is full of BMW driving
webheads, and now you say it "promotes being a freak"...explain this
contradiction. Does the mayor have a committee to promote freakiness?
And then "profit" from it? How exactly?
How can ANYBODY stop you from being an individual? How is it possible
to have too many people "trying to be individuals"? Weren't you born an
individual. It sounds like you were lost in your normalcy.
>
> Summary..
>
> SF is a very great place to live.. As long as you don't let the
> "Cheese Factor" or the "Cheesy People" get to you .. its great.. you
> have to just block out all the left over hippy shit.. and you are
> fine.. but it can be hard.. its like College.
Perhaps YOU are the "Cheese Factor"? It's like college? Not any college
I know of...
>
>
> if SF was considered College.. NYC is real life..
So the rest of us are just faking it in some all night frat party?
>
> What do I do?
You fuck off.
Spreadin the hippy love,
Dan
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