John - sorry to drag this on, but I'd hardly say that me and Pablo are a 
'whole list' in disagreement with you, more like 2 out of 500 - and we 
both have very different opinions on the subject ourselves. And of 
course there's never going to be an end to this - as you've mentioned 
being into jungle in the past, it's a bit like trying to agree which of 
the many splits has been the 'true' way forward in the dance scene from 
it's Detroit and Chicago origins. Now look at mod tastes from the 60s 
and look at everything they led to . . . 

On ideological grounds, I have NO problem with 'new modernism' - 
something I've tried to make clear with musical references. I've always 
said my favourite mod club was Where's Jude, not any Untouchables club 
or The Hideaway (much as I respect them). The problem I have with what 
you're saying is, to keep with Pablo's poker metaphor, you're keeping 
your hand to yourself. Apart from the bit about fashion leading to 
anything, which I don't agree with (as said, it didn't 3 years ago - 
what's different now?). 

Also, I think it's a shame that you're dissapointed with the mod scene 
for not sharing your attitudes - surely it's more a problem with 
contemporary scenes that they're not embraced mod values and made them 
their own, like the kids at Boys Own or the Duffer/Acid Jazz axis did in 
the late 80s? Or that everyone who believes in a New Mod has such 
different ideas there's nothing in common between them - NuYorican House 
or Belle and Sebastian? 
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