i am by no means saying that Joseph Conrad was a better writer than George 
Elliot, Herman Melville, or William Faulkner simply because English was not 
Conrad's first language as opposed to the others � you would be hard pressed 
to have me admit that Conrad was better than many writers, but that is 
beside the point.  Simply, those who must utilize English from a peripheral 
understanding of Anglo dominated culture must engage the language more 
formally, carefully, and effectively than any of us born and breed right 
here in the States, or the U.K., or Australia, et cetera.

i shy away from concluding the scenario, you can take it for what it is 
worth... the fact remains that most Americans (as I refuse to speak for 
cultures that I am not purely, and � ladies and gentlemen � i am a fucking 
American) couldn't tell you the difference between a dependent clause and a 
participle of speech.  i work in a high school and a more than fair number 
kids about to graduate in good standing cannot write me a coherent 
paragraph.  hell, i've probably made a million mistakes, in this reply, but 
they are all mistakes that hamper the essential meaning of it little to 
native speakers.

in the future, please be so kind as consider the scope of the discussion 
before you fire a nerf gun at me... i've got the whole fucking militia.

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"that's not true... just because they are not down with colloquialism it 
doesn't mean they have a greater skill"

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From: "evil cian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 > 'Why do the guys from Spain and Sweden use better English than the 
Americans?'

 >> Because, unfortunately, foreigners are the only ones that have been 
forced to decipher our cryptic language -- we've always taken it on faith.


Cian Loughlin O'Day
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